Got this email from ATF just today

Shocker's link led me to quite a few videos on FRT and binary triggers, and FRT and full auto. Made me think that they can be fussy and somewhat unreliable, and I think Whisper Tactical's vids on them made the most sense. We don't train on automatic double-tap, or "alternative" trigger pulls, and they can be a problem, especially if depended upon in a stressful situation. Just my .02 cents.

Otherwise, banning FRT's? It is a pull-reset trigger, so this is getting too deep into the fringe of defining "full auto".
 
Received from BATF today, and to me is pretty clear. "If multiple shots will fire from 1 pull of the trigger is is not legal and considered a machinegun. I don't mess with these and can see no reason for anyone to have a legitimate reason for one.
 
Well apparently there are some agencies afraid of attorneys. Didn't a certain organization file so many lawsuits against the IRS that in a deal they were given tax exempt status if the lawsuits went away. Power in numbers and money if you can stay the course. If a tenth of the 20 million or so pistol brace owners filed lawsuits (2 million) and pursued them against the ATF, I bet pistol braces would cease to be any issue. Most of us have a life and are not fanatically driven to fight this type of battle. However I COULD see it happening if any type of serious gun confiscation scheme ever occurred.

If 10% of holders filed lawsuits, it would be 300,000, not 2,000,000.

Unlike an individual group, company, entity, individual person fighting to get the government to simply grant them the privilege of being left alone, the lawsuits of hundreds of individuals isn't a threat. A court will eventually set precedent, , other courts will either follow that precedent or refuse to hear the case, and if things are troublesome enough, the Supreme Court will take it to settle all the lawsuits with one swing of the gavel. 300,000 suits over the same issue will boil down to one, anyway.

The other threat is that Boob McBooberson will launch a poorly done lawsuit, with little resource, and use that as a leading case to be the one that sets the example. That is why there is so much caution about people just filing lawsuits on these issues. They might be doing more harm than good.

Remember, Miller is he most important case in the history of the Second Amendment. And the government won at the Supreme Court, after he never showed up! The fact that one criminal refused to fight his court case has hurt every gun owner in the US forever. We don't need another Miller to be the lead on any more gun cases.

Defending someone from a criminal or civil charge with lawyering up heavily, over and over again, is nothing to do with the situation of these rights and how they are defined.
 
…They feel that makes them look stupid and undermines the credibility they think they have.

They will also go to great lengths to protect the assets of their agents to shield them from civil suits in unjust actions in the few cases where the defendant hangs on long enough to win a case.

It's despicable behavior.

As they say, "I fixed it for ya!" Credibility? :rolleyes:

You got the despicable part right. :)
 
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