Gotta Get better With My J frame

[bigggbbruce]

At my local range we have angle iron hanger for targets at 100 yards.

I shoot all my pistols at the 2 inch wide steel. My model 60 I hit it once in a cylinder full on most occasions.

All in how you hold it.

 

[model3sw]

I was able to find a Mod 632-1 a couple of months ago. This 327 Fed Magnum with Eagle factory ammo is a serious revolver with a really sharp, snap of a kick. The rubber stocks that came on it are very skinny and the knuckle on my middle finger got severely bruised by getting hit by the trigger guard for 50 rounds. Shooting at 25 yds I could only manage 6 to 7 inch groups resting off the back of my car.
I put larger Pachmyer stocks on it and the groups shrank to about 4-5 inches. The piece still fits into my front pocket but is not as "concealable". My knuckle doesn't get hit by the trigger guard anymore either.
My first 327 handloads with 120gr cast bullets are even doing a little better. More work to do but so far, so good.
I want to carry this little gun while stream fishing/backpacking in the mountains so 25 yd accuracy is important to me. A kit gun with real power. (Besides, I can't get my Mod 63 back from my son anyway.)
It seems to me that if I can hit at 25 yds (or more), I should be good to go at 7 yds.

My son has a J-frame.357 magnum 3 inch and a short Lew Horton 629 (it came with no grips when purchased) we brought to the range, that do exactly the same thing. I have a set of the finger grooved proper Lew Horton grips that will not knuckle-bruise but need more comfort then that.

It's the grips for sure. The larger Pachmayrs are better on the 629 round butt Lew Horton, i was advised to find the S&W / Hougue x-frame (500 magnum) mono-grip but I can't find them anywhere.

I have been advised that the X-frame gips, while they are the same butt configuration as the K/L & N round butt revolvers ... it is not the same grip as the one made specifically for the X-frame, so I had been told.

 

[BAM-BAM]

One more thought..... after dry firing...... load a mixed cylinder with 2/3 live rounds and 2/3 empty cases... don't watch .... spin the cylinder and close

You won't know if the round coming up is alive or a dud........

follow through each shot watching the front sight.

You will learn a lot.........

 

[tlandon]

Maybe you need more practice. I listed my experience. There is a reason I said that the "belly gun" label is BS. I've seen their capabilities in the hands of those who are willing to put in the training time. Mechanical accuracy is achieved through the gun. The rest is on the shooter.

I wont waste my time "practicing" with a snubby past 7yds. It's a belly gun. And neither will most people that live in this reality and not your fantasy john wayne world.
Come on man, get real. Come back to this planet. Or yet, maybe stay on the one you're on.

 

[shouldazagged]

If a J-frame with a two-inch barrel is capable of minute of miscreant at ranges that will stand up as justified shootings I am a happy old man.

Shooting tight groups at twenty or twenty-five yards is an interesting challenge and test of one's skills. Go for it and enjoy it.

It's not what a little revolver with a two-inch barrel is for, and justifying perforating somebody at twenty-five yards will be another interesting challenge.

I've pocket-carried one with Pachmayr Compacs for years. Not pretty but wonderfully controllable, and nobody has ever called me on carrying. Not once in seventeen years.

 

[bwelch47]

Agree

The term "belly gun" is pure BS. Any quality made gun should be capable of mechanical accuracy. The rest is on the shooter. The J-frame is capable of hitting and grouping at any range the shooter is capable of. The size of the gun itself can be a limiting factor due to anatomy, but the guns are no less target capable because of their size, only the user's ability and physical attributes.

Snowman, I agree with you. My deceased wife had a 2 1/2 " Model 629 which she carried for CCW. I watched her many times clear the X and 10 rings at fifty yards during practice. Any distance closer was just as easy. BTW, she practiced with factory 240 soft points, preferring Winchester.

 

[Jaymo]

The term "belly gun" is pure BS. Any quality made gun should be capable of mechanical accuracy. The rest is on the shooter. The J-frame is capable of hitting and grouping at any range the shooter is capable of. The size of the gun itself can be a limiting factor due to anatomy, but the guns are no less target capable because of their size, only the user's ability and physical attributes.

The tiny little sights don't help

 

[snowman.45]

I wont waste my time "practicing" with a snubby past 7yds. It's a belly gun. And neither will most people that live in this reality and not your fantasy john wayne world.
Come on man, get real. Come back to this planet. Or yet, maybe stay on the one you're on.

Fantasy John Wayne world? I've got 37 years of law enforcement with a very large portion of that being a firearms instructor. I didn't gain all of my experience standing behind a gun shop counter. If you want to be insulting, we can play that game, too. You want to act like an ***, I reserve the right to respond.

 

[snowman.45]

The tiny little sights don't help

True, Jaymo. However, I've seen officers qualify with the J-frame (model 60's back then) out to 25 yards scoring by the rings with an 80% or better requirement. When I could still see, I've done it myself, scoring in the high 90's. So, to have someone tell me that it's "fantasy John Wayne world" is a bit insulting and arrogant. I won't tolerate it.