Green Laser

[ChattanoogaPhil]

After reading my review of the performance of their product (I sent them an email) Laserlyte requested I send my unit back to them and issued me an RA number. I went to the range with it a couple more times and it has since intermittently stopped working between shots. I never did mount it on my AR. Anyway.... sending it back.

Laserlyte doesn't play games with their warranty. Sent me a new one.

 

[BELT_FED]

Laserlyte doesn't play games with their warranty. Sent me a new one.

you broke it allready... i told you it wasnt a hammer

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

you broke it allready... i told you it wasnt a hammer

LOL!

With the new replacement laser I got a letter from them saying they couldn't duplicate the on-off claim I was describing..... so I sent them back a letter saying I couldn'duplicate their claim of 100yd visibilty in daylight.

 

[lpatten]

Barska Combo

Just got my new AR-15 Scope and Green Laser Combo a 4x28 IR Electro Sight and Green Laser. Barska retails it for $425, but is on special now for $189. They claim the laser will reach out to 1000 m at night. The scope is 1/2" click adj for windage and elevation with a black recticle and two IR reicles, one Red and one Green. The Laser mounts on rails built in to the scope. Will install it tomorrow on my 15-22 and go to the desert Sat to test.

 

[BELT_FED]

LOL!

With the new replacement laser I got a letter from them saying they couldn't duplicate the on-off claim I was describing..... so I sent them back a letter saying I couldn'duplicate their claim of 100yd visibilty in daylight.

U can allways count on Phil.... lol....(Mr. obvious)

 

[lonejacklarry]

My turn.........................

LOL!

With the new replacement laser I got a letter from them saying they couldn't duplicate the on-off claim I was describing..... so I sent them back a letter saying I couldn' t duplicate their claim of 100yd visibility in daylight.

If you'll recall, I had the same problem at CPhil but I "solved" the problem w/ a battery that worked. Fast forward to a couple weeks ago:

Mine usually worked until it started not working on a regular basis. The same symptoms reappeared so I called them and they had me send it back to them.

I got it back yesterday w/ another dead battery--they left the switch on! Anyway, the form letter stated that they could not duplicate the symptoms but that it had been tested extensively and would work fine now. (?) They magnanimously included two batteries--I don't know if they are pre-dead or not). They sent a "tool kit" consisting of a couple of Allen wrenches, as well.

I then called the folks to see what the extensive testing entailed. Apparently, the extensive testing is unknown to the customer service lady and equally unknown to the "executive assistant". Here's the neat part: when I explained that the light works fine until it quits, usually after 5 or 6 .22 rounds, she was incredulous that I have not mentioned that when I wrote the letter w/ the problem!! And I quote "you didn't mention anything about recoil in your letter".

Apparently, she was surprised that their products are used on weapons that have recoil. My thinking is that if it quits on a .22, it probably wouldn't work long on a .460 Weatherby Magnum.

I have an awfully expensive cat toy now. Otis, the Golden Retriever, won't chase it!

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

I'm surprised they didn't send you a new one. Are you not going to send it back again? If nothing else, it will keep the k15 saga alive.

Belt_Fed picked up a new Viridian. Maybe he'll share his story about it and their CS rep.

ps. Pugsters, the Puggle, loves her BSA red laser. The green laser is a bit too bright for animals... cats are ok though

 

[lonejacklarry]

Laserlyte stuff

I'm surprised they didn't send you a new one. Are you not going to send it back again? If nothing else, it will keep the k15 saga alive.

I'm going to call back on Tuesday and see if I can find someone w/ some sense......maybe someone that can see the irony in saying "could not duplicate the problem so we sent it back so it ought to work fine."

Belt_Fed picked up a new Viridian. Maybe he'll share his story about it and their CS rep.

Is it the old familiar song and dance w/ a different outfit?

The green laser is a bit too bright for animals... cats are ok though.

I don't have a cat but I do pester the neighbor's cats from 100 yards+ at night. Mine does nothing at 100 yards in the daylight--it does about 30 yards in the daylight if one shines it on something in the shade. Oh, I get it--cats are, too, animals--tasty, too, I'm told.

 

[BELT_FED]

well, im glad you ask (i needed to vent)

Day 1: recieved new wp22 viridian laser, this thing is crazy bright and no problem for me to see in day light... very impressed

Day 2: (about a week later in real time) I took the wife out to play with the new wp22 on her new brushed chrome walther.. She decides that I should shoot it first so I did.. Every few rds it would shut off. You could turn it back on and it was as bright as it was before, but pull the trigger and off it would go again. Needless to say the old lady was pretty upset when she found out that the 17 dollar laser that was working I had removed and put on a 200 dollar non working one..

Phone call #1: I called viridian and got a CS rep and i told him which model I had and explained that it was shutting off every few rds.. He then tried to tell me that was a feature of the system that it is setup so that after a mag is emptied it will auto shut off so to not make the person holding it a target while they reload and can be programmed to different shot counts. I told him that was a great feature on the other models but mine was a wp22 and didnt have that feature.. his reply was well obviously it does. So after my head stopped spinning and my eye sight came back. I asked "nicely" for a superviser. He was very helpful and sent me shipping lable and assured me that my wp22 would be back in my hands in 7-10 days.. I thanked him and shipped it off

Email #1: (10 days later) we have recieved your wp22 laser and it will be processed. This takes 7-10 days and you will recieve a tracking number when its shipped..

Email #2: (my reply) I explained that I was disappointed in them as a company because I had been promissed a week or 2 without my laser at the max and now they are saying that Im looking at 3 to 4 weeks minimum.

Email #3 (their reply) it was the standard we are sorry for the missunderstanding but we will put a rush on it and have it expressed so you can have it back by the weekend..(remember this is the start of week 3 allready)

Email #4 (my reply) thank you very much

Weekend comes and goes and no laser

Email #5 (me to them) still have not recieved a functional wp22 that i paid for, thanx

Email #6 (their reply)was a invoice where they had shipped me a new one and nothing more

2 weeks pass and no laser

phone call #2: basicly the standard we are so sorry and ill include something extra (that came with it to start with) i said I dont want anything extra just what I paid for A FUNCTIONING WP22 LASER. She said it was her fault that they had no replacement parts to fix my old one so she had ordered me a new one to replace mine but didnt know they were out of stock.. but she had 2 on her desk and one was going to me and the other to some other poor soul.

Friday (end of week 5) there is a package on the door step..
Its a viridian Green laser system. And Im happy to say that it is all I paid for and more Its brighter than the first one and locks on tighter.. I just wish they had explained that stuff was on back order to start with. I can understand that, but i dont like to be promissed stuff over and over and it never happen...Im sure 99% of the time people have no problems with their products and never have to go threw this and their product is awesome to say the least I just hope my case is one that never happens again

Needless to say Im very happy with the product now and its all they claim it to be.. just wish they had been more honest to start with

They did include a bad a t-shirt..

 

[whoppo]

It's amazing how far a little honest communications goes in the world of customer service, eh?

Now if I can just find some 36mm diameter picatinny rail rings I can mount my BLUE laser

 

[lonejacklarry]

well, im glad you ask (i needed to vent)

Phone call #1: I called viridian and got a CS rep and i told him which model I had and explained that it was shutting off every few rds.. He then tried to tell me that was a feature of the system that it is setup so that after a mag is emptied it will auto shut off so to not make the person holding it a target while they reload and can be programmed to different shot counts.

Yes, they all must come from the same CS school! I'm glad CPhil asked about that because you must feel better now.

I'm curious about the feature that shuts the light off after the mag is emptied............it stays on if you only fire 2 or 3 shots? And then goes out after the mag is empty? I was taught to count the shots but if they have a new fangled "warning light", I guess that ought to work. Can you get one w/ a heated grip and iron sight defroster?

 

[BELT_FED]

Yes, they all must come from the same CS school! I'm glad CPhil asked about that because you must feel better now.

I'm curious about the feature that shuts the light off after the mag is emptied............it stays on if you only fire 2 or 3 shots? And then goes out after the mag is empty? I was taught to count the shots but if they have a new fangled "warning light", I guess that ought to work. Can you get one w/ a heated grip and iron sight defroster?

im pretty sure that feature is ment for swat and military use in low light or no light situations.. if your trying to swap out a mag in the dark and your laser is still on it makes you the brightest target in the room. Ive read where some set theirs up on 2 shots so that its on till you doble tap ten its off but its like any feature its a selling point wether you use it or not

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

Needless to say the old lady was pretty upset when she found out that the 17 dollar laser that was working I had removed and put on a 200 dollar non working one..

LOL! That, my friend, is a classic storyline throughout many episodes of my married life. Thanks for sharing.

 

[wbear]

I wanted to buy a green laser and was speaking to the tech at Lasermax. He asked why I wanted a green one. Told him it was the latest thing, military uses them, greater range etc etc. He laughed and said get the red one! He said there is no green diode so they have to use a red one and add additional components to convert it to green. This fact makes the cost much higher, battery life much much less than a red one, larger physical size and decreases the reliability. He said that unless you have a specific need that requires a green one stick with the red until they have a green diode which he does not foresee in the near future.

I went ahead and got a Lasermax red and am very satisfied with it.

 

[Rustpot]

I miss my Wicked brand green laser. I bought it for use in the office in Philly and it was stolen from my glove box when my car was being worked on. When I got back to Michigan a friend bought the same one and we had the dot bright as hell out at 200 yards during the day. Too bad they don't make weapon mounted lasers, though I have no idea how the one I had would stand up to recoil.

They do make lasers that can cut tape and light cigarettes for less than $100 though.

 

[whoppo]

I miss my Wicked brand green laser. I bought it for use in the office in Philly and it was stolen from my glove box when my car was being worked on. When I got back to Michigan a friend bought the same one and we had the dot bright as hell out at 200 yards during the day. Too bad they don't make weapon mounted lasers, though I have no idea how the one I had would stand up to recoil.

They do make lasers that can cut tape and light cigarettes for less than $100 though.

If I could find a set of 36mm rings I'd mount my WickedLasers Arctic G2 (1000mw blue).. I just want to be next to a guy popping holes in his paper while I set mine on fire without firing a shot

(sample of my Watt O' Blue Light: YouTube - Wicked Lasers Arctic.G2 burns through two floppy discs )

 

[whoppo]

I wanted to buy a green laser and was speaking to the tech at Lasermax. He asked why I wanted a green one. Told him it was the latest thing, military uses them, greater range etc etc. He laughed and said get the red one! He said there is no green diode so they have to use a red one and add additional components to convert it to green. This fact makes the cost much higher, battery life much much less than a red one, larger physical size and decreases the reliability. He said that unless you have a specific need that requires a green one stick with the red until they have a green diode which he does not foresee in the near future.

I went ahead and got a Lasermax red and am very satisfied with it.

Actually most of the green lasers initially generate InfraRed light at a wavelength of 1064 nanometers and feed a frequency doubler crystal to cut the wavelength in half to 532nm (visible green). There's not much difference in battery life, but there are some efficiency losses in the crystals.
Green lasers seem to be brighter than red at similar power levels because the human eye is most sensitive to light in the 520nm - 570nm wavelength portion of the spectrum.
There are direct emission laser diodes in the green range, but they're still quite new and ridiculously expensive.

Can you tell I need to get out more?

(BTW: I light my cigars with a laser... sad, but true: YouTube - Wicked Lasers Arctic.G2 - Lighting a Cigar )

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

Oh my.... ChattanoogaPhil is thinking of the mischief that could be created with that toy...

 

[whoppo]

Oh my.... ChattanoogaPhil is thinking of the mischief that could be created with that toy...

There are indeed many possibilities

 

[whoppo]

Here ya go Phil...

15 feet away.. kinda hard to hold it steady.
Burn through time: ~2-3 seconds
Holes enlarged themselves by edge burning... bonanza map style.

 

[MrYoga]

Last year, I bought 3 Firefield Green Laser Sights from Sportsman's Guide(cost about $55 each with Buyer's Club) These are the old style and have cheap set screws for adjustments(If you ever buy this Laser, go to the parts store and get some better screws) The new style has hand adjustment turrets.
I put one on an Olympic Arms OA93(Cool factor of 10+++).
I put one on an AK with the Advanced Technologies Strikeforce stock(also very cool)
I was waiting for the perfect gun to put the last one on and I finally found it
I bought my 15-22 this weekend thru an ad in the weekly advertiser(Gotta love those private sales)
The previous owner had put on a Burris 3X-9X-40mm Rimfire scope, so I left it on.
I put the Laser on the top of the Forend and the scope's line of sight misses it
For now, I have both the scope and laser sighted in at 40 yards. That's the distance from my bench(picnic table) to the wood pile.
The scope works well and the Green Beam Machine is just a lot of fun. At night it seems that it goes on forever. During the day, point it into the shadows or at an old reflective road sign and it shows up very nicely.
So, today at dusk, I aligned every thing, loaded up 2 25 rounders, 1 with CCI Minis, 1 with CCI Regs, did the "From The Hip" thing and made that wood pile dance

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

Here ya go Phil...

bonanza map style.

Hahaha. Nice reference.

 

[whoppo]

Hahaha. Nice reference.

I went that whole day with the Bonanza theme song playing over and over and over in my head...

 

[DownRange&Upwind]

Im using the AIM green laser with the external windage and elevation knobs. MUCH better than the first laser they sent me( the wrong model) that had four... FOUR windage and elevation screws to adjust! Needless to say that went right back in the box ASAP lol. This laser can be seen very easily in the brightest of daylight several hundred yards away. So far, at least its been a great and accurate tool for shooting.

 

[whoppo]

Im using the AIM green laser with the external windage and elevation knobs. MUCH better than the first laser they sent me( the wrong model) that had four... FOUR windage and elevation screws to adjust! Needless to say that went right back in the box ASAP lol. This laser can be seen very easily in the brightest of daylight several hundred yards away. So far, at least its been a great and accurate tool for shooting.

What's the SKU# for the model you have?
Does it hold adjustment well?
I've got a bottom-of-the-line UAG that's all over the paper... a different POI with every shot!

 

[DownRange&Upwind]

What's the SKU# for the model you have?
Does it hold adjustment well?
I've got a bottom-of-the-line UAG that's all over the paper... a different POI with every shot!

The brand name is AIM and the model number is LG002. And yes it has held a perfect zero now ever since I mounted it for about 600 rounds and counting.
It has 2 external adjustment knobs. The caps unscrew like typical scope caps do, and then you adjust the sights with a screwdriver,dime etc. The laser adjusts with the usual 1/4 MOA per click. I'd be happy to post "up close" pics of the laser and the adjustment knobs if you would like to see them. But it can be seen at a normal distance in the picture thread. As I am the last post that has pictures, well at least so far.

 

[whoppo]

The brand name is AIM and the model number is LG002. And yes it has held a perfect zero now ever since I mounted it for about 600 rounds and counting.
It has 2 external adjustment knobs. The caps unscrew like typical scope caps do, and then you adjust the sights with a screwdriver,dime etc. The laser adjusts with the usual 1/4 MOA per click. I'd be happy to post "up close" pics of the laser and the adjustment knobs if you would like to see them. But it can be seen at a normal distance in the picture thread. As I am the last post that has pictures, well at least so far.

Cool... that's the one I thought. Looks like it can be had at a pretty good price as well. Thanks!
-Ron

 

[semsora]

DownRange... where'd you purchase your from? Cost?

Thanks
Frank

 

[DownRange&Upwind]

DownRange... where'd you purchase your from? Cost?

Thanks
Frank

Believe it or not...well let me tell this story in full, its gonna be a long one, and I DO mean long lol. I ordered a small green laser for my XD 9 mm on eBay. The one I recieved had a few scratches on it, and when contacted by the company for feedback. I informed them of the scratches, but it was not a big deal, just it was obvioulsy used and not new, like the auction listed it as being.

Well, They sent me out a brand new still in the wrapped package green laser. I then contacted them back to return the other one to them. Never even after at LEAST 10 attempts to get a return RMA to them, no one ever contacted me back. So fast forward. I sale one of my XD9mm pistols, and decide to throw in the green laser as I had yet to use it, and now had 2 of the same laser, just one was slighlty scratched. So I give that one away with the pistol as it sold.

Fast forward again.. I took my other XD to the local indoor range, and fired off a few rounds. I had installed the new one on this pistol. And during the install, my wife called me to answer the doorbell. I forget that I had just barely tightened the mount to the pistol. I fire off about 4 shots and ZINNGGG.. it flies off. breaking the something inside, and it wont turn on now.. Totally my fault.

A few days pass, and I get a email from the company I had been emailing trying to return the green laser. They inform me they had a massive loss of records during a crash, and saw they had sent me a replacement laser, and was curious to if I had actually gotten it or not( I forgot to leave ebay feedback).They provide me with a phone number to contact them. So I call them up and I tell them, ya I have it, but its broken. They tell me to ship it back. As it has a lifetime warranty. I PLAINLY tell the guy( one of those BARELY speaks English guys) that I had sold the one I ACTUALLY purchased. And this one was just a return.

We get into a conversation of what type of weapon I had attached it to. I tell him about the springfield XD9. I then, just making normal conversation tell him I was looking to buy a longer/larger version, as I had a new rifle now. He told me, I can upgrade you to the newest model since your is broken, and you have had all this issues with our customer service. And they have a lifetime warranty. I tell him I sold the one I bought, this was a 2nd one I just wound up with, and wanted to return it for repair to them as it was technically theirs any way.

We hang up, and I have the stuff emailed to me to return the broken laser. A few days AFTER I mailed the broken one to them I recieve a package. ANOTHER smaller green laser. I call them back, tell them I had recieved it. The guy asks my name, adress etc etc. I give him this info. Before I could go any further, the guy tells me that HES sorry. His records on his screen shows that I was to recieve a LG002 model with external windage and adjustment knobs.

Instead I received the SAME previous model as I had sold AND tried to return for nearly 3 weeks. He then tells me not to worry, as He will send me the correct Green laser with expedited shipping. Then he tells me to have a good day. I do the same to him, thank him for helping me. I then Hang up and enjoy my now free LARGER/newest model rifle laser 2 days later lol! Im not going to go through ALL of that again, lol So I have a NEW( slightly used now) green smaller version laser for sale if any one is interested lol.

Now to the question of cost. I got the smaller original green laser on eBay for around 50 dollars. This newer version sales for around 100-145 give or take. Told you it was gonna be long lol. I CANT wait for replies to this post lol.

 

[MrYoga]

Priceless

Used S&W M&P 15-22 with Magpul Pistol grip, Vertical grip, and Burris scope -$475.00
Firefield Green Laser Sight- $55.00
Green "Flash" as bullet passes through Laser just before target- PRICELESS