Shot my 2.5 in 686 PC today with this ammo. Tight group for me. 2 inches at 7 yards. No sticky extraction like I had with BB's version of this load. Will use this load in Northern AZ when visiting my Dad. Should be good for Black bear on down. Also, it shoots about 3 inches high at 7 yards. My gun is dead on with the Speer GDHP 125 gr .357 load. By the way, the moonclips that come with this revolver work great with Starline and Speer brass.