But how many safes are going to be broken into from
the inside out?
Why not tape a stick of TNT on the outside of the door?
Chuck
Gun safes....are my guns really safe against burglary??
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But how many safes are going to be broken into from
the inside out?
Why not tape a stick of TNT on the outside of the door?
Chuck
I really like my....
...Monotrics home system. Sensors on doors. Motion detector for others. Fire alarm (which we had to use).
I've just replaced the double front doors, easy to crash but with the deadbolt attached in the middle instead of the frame, but it's a positive grab, like fingers locked together and well attached to both doors so it will make one commotion if anybody tries to kick it in.
We have about 10 seconds to put the code in the alarm when we open the door. They have a cell phone in them so even if they tear it off the wall, it still calls. And the can cut my phone and internet outside, but it won't do them any good.
I think it's one of the more positive ways to secure a home outside of locks and beefing up entry points.
i'd like to set up game cameras so can see if anybody is poking around our place.
A video system would be nice. I'd put in dummy cameras and a dummy central control so they can think that they've disabled it or taken it.
...Monotrics home system. Sensors on doors. Motion detector for others. Fire alarm (which we had to use).
I've just replaced the double front doors, easy to crash but with the deadbolt attached in the middle instead of the frame, but it's a positive grab, like fingers locked together and well attached to both doors so it will make one commotion if anybody tries to kick it in.
We have about 10 seconds to put the code in the alarm when we open the door. They have a cell phone in them so even if they tear it off the wall, it still calls. And the can cut my phone and internet outside, but it won't do them any good.
I think it's one of the more positive ways to secure a home outside of locks and beefing up entry points.
i'd like to set up game cameras so can see if anybody is poking around our place.
A video system would be nice. I'd put in dummy cameras and a dummy central control so they can think that they've disabled it or taken it.
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There is nothing that is 100% secure to an experienced and determined criminal. That being said many robberies are similar to what you experienced, a quick snatch and grab of high value items. In those cases a gun safe will most likely be sufficient deterrent.
cowart
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A similar setup located in the *FLOOR* would be much harder to get into.
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I've outgrown my safe, so my "overflow" guns live in the closet.
Has anyone considered one of the on-site tool storage boxes that are available? There are a bunch of different sizes, but they all can be bolted down and are secured by a heavy padlock in a recessed compartment to make it hard to get at with bolt cutters.
They are about 500 bucks new. I'm considering getting one and bolting it down in a closet and covering it with a blanket or some clothes.
Ooops- Im on a strict budget while also trying to help Sabrina with her bills.
zzzippper
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Looking at the rods that go into the safe door jamb when it is locked makes me think that trying the door is the last thing to try.
Ringo as a construction worker I have worked out of literally hundreds of those boxes all different sizes and shapes. You can easily find them for sale in For sale type magazines (at least in my area.) Save you from paying top dollar at a store!
Get a box that has two locking points the one in your picture the sides of the cover can be bent up fairly easy.
The harder it is to get to the lock the better secured it is. These boxes are better than a lot of the cheaper "gun type "lockers" that are available. The down side you will have to figure out your interior furnishings .I know a couple people using construction/work boxes, one just uses old blankets to cover and separate his layers of guns.
Good luck buddy!
andyo5
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I did some research on this subject recently.
Given enough time, most safes can be pried open. The more sides that have extending bars, the more difficult and time consuming it will be. Time is usually a factor in the decision whether to go for the safe or not.
It is alot easier if the burgler can tip the safe onto its back and work on it ftom the sides. Place your safe in a location where it would be difficult for them to tip it onto its back.
Given enough time, most safes can be pried open. The more sides that have extending bars, the more difficult and time consuming it will be. Time is usually a factor in the decision whether to go for the safe or not.
It is alot easier if the burgler can tip the safe onto its back and work on it ftom the sides. Place your safe in a location where it would be difficult for them to tip it onto its back.
cowart
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If it is a revolver that you don't use on a regular basis, you can remove the cylinder and hide it in a different part of the house. For semi autos, you can hide the slide or the barrel.
Most bad guys don't have a supply of spare parts...
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This is from a customer recently:
"Wanted to let you know that a few weeks ago we had a burglary and the dude found the FAS1 by my bed and it appears he tried to pry it open and failed. He got away with plenty of stuff, and the stack on security cabinet didn't keep him from some of my long guns... but he didn't get my pistols, thanks in part to your product."
I think what probably happened here is the the thief saw something that he thought would be a better use of his time. If you can frustrate them a little, they might move on to gab a TV or something easier to get.
Buy good quality and harden your home as as much as you can. If they do break in, make them work a little harder so they want to move on to an easier item to get or another target all together.
"Wanted to let you know that a few weeks ago we had a burglary and the dude found the FAS1 by my bed and it appears he tried to pry it open and failed. He got away with plenty of stuff, and the stack on security cabinet didn't keep him from some of my long guns... but he didn't get my pistols, thanks in part to your product."
I think what probably happened here is the the thief saw something that he thought would be a better use of his time. If you can frustrate them a little, they might move on to gab a TV or something easier to get.
Buy good quality and harden your home as as much as you can. If they do break in, make them work a little harder so they want to move on to an easier item to get or another target all together.
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I guess I don't understand a small safe like this, what is keeping a thief from just taking the safe with them and trying to open it later? Can it be bolted down? Obviously they will think there is something of value inside and just take it if it is portable.
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Yes, they should all be bolted down. This one is 7GA so the steel is thicker than most full size RSC's. The problem with most of them is they don't get bolted down or they are much thinner gauge steel making them easier to bend/deform with tools.
All you can really do is buy some time, might as well buy as much as you can.
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I've already done that. Have some guns from my great grandfather that are basically junk, a few rifles that are worth maybe a $100 and some break open S&W copies that are missing parts. Anything that might be made operable (and dangerous to the shooter) I remove the bolt or some other part and put in the safe. My dad made the gun cabinet and I would be more upset if they destroyed the cabinet than crying over losing the junk in it.
rock n roll kid
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really....
info i read & copied from an other forum some time ago reads like this .....
observation made over several years by by a police dept. on the east coast ...... burglars do not even try to open a good gun safe , they want to be in & out in a very few short minutes.
they believed thru experience also that statistically a fire is way more likely than a burglary for the average home so a good fire rated safe is very important.
and stay away from most gun safes sold in sporting goods stores , they can be opened in less than minutes by an experienced burglars .
myself , i have a 7 gauge safe that has a great fire rating . can not recall the numbers of the rating but it is better than most you hear of . it weighs in the neighborhood of 1300 lbs loaded & no i didnt bolt it to the floor .
was built by a master safe guy who know his stuff. anyone who has attended the indy 1500 gun show has maybe seen jeff johnson & his safes . top grade stuff !
i started out with wanting to spend $1400-$1600 but end up springing for about $2300 . did not want to re-buy to move up to a better or bigger safe so i bit the bullet and tried to do it right the first time around .
oh .... you can look johnson safe up on line . he has a very simple & to the point web-site.
i believe these words spoken by those in the know and have vast experience in dealing with these types of situations know what the are saying
info i read & copied from an other forum some time ago reads like this .....
observation made over several years by by a police dept. on the east coast ...... burglars do not even try to open a good gun safe , they want to be in & out in a very few short minutes.
they believed thru experience also that statistically a fire is way more likely than a burglary for the average home so a good fire rated safe is very important.
and stay away from most gun safes sold in sporting goods stores , they can be opened in less than minutes by an experienced burglars .
myself , i have a 7 gauge safe that has a great fire rating . can not recall the numbers of the rating but it is better than most you hear of . it weighs in the neighborhood of 1300 lbs loaded & no i didnt bolt it to the floor .
was built by a master safe guy who know his stuff. anyone who has attended the indy 1500 gun show has maybe seen jeff johnson & his safes . top grade stuff !
i started out with wanting to spend $1400-$1600 but end up springing for about $2300 . did not want to re-buy to move up to a better or bigger safe so i bit the bullet and tried to do it right the first time around .
oh .... you can look johnson safe up on line . he has a very simple & to the point web-site.
i believe these words spoken by those in the know and have vast experience in dealing with these types of situations know what the are saying
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