Gun store employee accidently shoots himself

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Gun store employee accidently shoots himself

how does a gun in a gun store get loaded unless it is a personal weapon of the employee?

 

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Gun store employee accidently shoots himself

how does a gun in a gun store get loaded unless it is a personal weapon of the employee?

From the article: Deputies responded to the National Armory Gun Store & Gun Range after Palmer was wounded with a small-caliber weapon

No way to know, but that might account for it...

 

[ImprovedModel56Fan]

Gun store employee accidently shoots himself

how does a gun in a gun store get loaded unless it is a personal weapon of the employee?

I know nothing about this case, but in Pensacola FL a few decades ago, a customer shot himself with a rifle that the store had for sale. When the smoke cleared, so to speak, it turned out that the customer had brought the cartridge into the store and loaded it into the rifle. He was charged. I do not know whether the motive ever came out.

I would not put it beyond some anti-gun nut case to try to get a cartridge or two into a gun undetected. Whether he succeeds and whether injury results depends, of course, on subsequent gunhandling by innocent folks who have a set of rules that, if followed, will prevent such things.

 

[wheelgun28]

one day at the LGS....

Soe guys brings in a 1911 say he doesn't remember how to disassemble it. So he takes it out of a rug and hands it to the clerk, the clerk asks its not loaded, right. Gun owner "oh no its not", the clerk being smart, pulls the slide back and what do you know a round in the chamber. The he sees the mag in it and its full too.

Thankfully the clerk knew to always check the chamber. He gave a small warning to the customer...

So yes people bring loaded guns into the store...

If in doubt, check it out.

Personally Ive got a habit, pick up a firearm, check it. I am very bad about it. Even if I put it down, and pick it up a few mins later I still check it, its a habit. I check em before the safe, when I take one out of the safe, its checked. I am probably adding to the wear and tear but its a habit. Like not putting your finger on the trigger till your ready to shoot.

 

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one day at the LGS....

Soe guys brings in a 1911 say he doesn't remember how to disassemble it. So he takes it out of a rug and hands it to the clerk, the clerk asks its not loaded, right. Gun owner "oh no its not", the clerk being smart, pulls the slide back and what do you know a round in the chamber. The he sees the mag in it and its full too.

Thankfully the clerk knew to always check the chamber. He gave a small warning to the customer...

I hope someone also gave the clerk a small warning to always drop the magazine *before* checking the chamber.

The only negligent discharge I ever personally witnessed was the result of someone performing these steps in the wrong order.

EDIT: I should add that the only other ND I *heard* (but did not see) came from a guy that I literally entrusted with my life on more than one occasion--and still trust implicitly. He was very tired and just had a momentary lapse. As a result I *always* clear any gun I touch, even if I saw someone else clear it before handing it to me. It's probably the only *good* habit I have.

 

[stantheman86]

It adds no additional wear and tear to clear a weapon, whether it's a revolver, autoloader, bolt gun, etc. Think of how many times you open and close a cylinder, or how many times a slide cycles during a 500 round range session......opening the action whenever you pick it up does nothing to the gun.

I once asked to see a Mossberg .22 bolt rifle at a gun shop, I opened the bolt and a live .22 LR popped out.......that rifle probably sat loaded and cocked for years on that gun shop rack. Luckily I found it, or else someone might have pulled the trigger and popped off a .22 in the store.......

And some guys get mad when I give them the "stink eye" at gun shows when they point pistols and rifles at people when checking them out.......I hate that, if you have to "get a feel" for the gun, point it at the floor or at the ceiling. I don't care if it's "clear" I don't want to round a corner at a gun show and see a guy pointing a Mini-14 at my chest......I can't even count how many times this has happened. Or how many times I've seen some idiot at a gun shop ask to see a Taurus .38 snub or something and the guy just pulls the trigger, and at no point did anyone open the cylinder to check it.

 

[Alpo]

Local gun store. Clerk's carry gun was a Norinco 1911, and he was discussing their pluses and minuses with a customer. He pulled his gun, cleared it, and gave it to the customer to handle. After a few minutes of fondling, the customer gave it back, and the clerk reloaded it, but laid it down behind the counter instead of re-holstering (I don't know why). The store owner, knowing that they had just been handling it, so he KNEW IT WAS UNLOADED, picked it up to try the trigger pull, and shot the end of his left index finger off.

Stupidity happens.

 

[pilgrim6a]

It the kind of thing that happens at public ranges. A week or so back I upset a guy at the local shop by grabbing a pistol from his hand. He was comparing the trigger pull between his Smith NG and the one the shop had for sale. I explained that a .357 mag. in a small room was bad for my poor old ears.
I did like 'Mel B's Bikini Bump' on the link though.
KEEP YOUR EYES OPEN!!!

 

[cjw3]

I was in a store in the late 60's when a guy walks in with a .22 rifle of some description that he wanted to get worked on. He handed it to the clerk who managed to fire it up toward the front of the store (fortunately at an upward angle).

He sang out..."Everybody all right??"

I guess they were.

I left, pronto.

 

[David LaPell]

I still remember going to a gun shop about 10 years back and looking at a Walther PPK and dropping the mag. I racked the slide back and out popped a live round. I handed the round to the shop owner who was also the only person that worked there. He didn't load it, but he recalled someone about 30 minutes or so before me looking at it so he figured that was where it came from.
I still wonder about alot of that, it's one of the worries I have about maybe opening my own shop someday, or working at a gun show, some idiot either slipping a live round in the chamber or just doing something stupid. I like one shop that I go to, BIG signs that say "Any Guns Must be Open and Unloaded". I know it won't prevent all accidents, but it would help with insurance.

 

[yaktamer]

I'm in Sportsman's Warehouse the other day when a guy walks up to the gun counter and asks the clerk if they have a Taurus Judge. There are three variants hanging on the wall right behind the clerk, who asks the guy if he wants to see the 2-1/2 or 3 inch chamber. Guy obviously doesn't know the difference and I sensed he really probably didn't even know what a Judge was.

Clerk hands him one of the guns. Guy looks at it for a minute or so and asks if he can see one of the shells that it takes. I'm already getting a weird vibe from the guy, and when he asks for ammo while holding the gun I get a flashback of the gunshop scene in The Terminator. I'm just about to Jesse Owens it out the door, when the clerk replies, "Well, I don't have any ammo for it."

I'm thinking (1) there are about a dozen boxes of .45 Colt and about 20 cases of .410 right behind me and (2) thank God the clerk was sharp enough to fib (although he did sort of under his bresth add .."opened," so I guess he didn't really lie to the guy).

I've been in a couple of shops where they probably would have shown the guy how to load a full cylinder with live ammo. I'm actually surprised there aren't more stories like this.