Gun toting Soccer Mom, Husband Shot dead

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I feel terrible for the kids. They have one hell of a road ahead of them.

Sadly, I think this will do nothing but be used by the anti-Second Amendment groups to our detriment.
 
It wasn't she that was nuts. It was he.

He apparently allegedly shot her several times, had a police standoff (with the kids there the entire time) and then shot himself.
 
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the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, which says it tries to reform the gun industry through sensible regulations,

Wow, it really IS just a way to ban guns. That's the biggest line of crap in the whole article.
 
I just pray the people involved have the sense to see that the kids are cared for first and foremost. I think we know where Brady, Rendell et. al. are going to put their priorities.

Bob
 
It wasn't she that was nuts. It was he.

He apparently allegedly shot her several times, had a police standoff (with the kids there the entire time) and then shot himself.

Barb, I realize she wasn't the one that did the shooting. What I mean is that the enemies of the second amendment will use this as an example of the uselessness of having a firearm for personal defense. They'll say, "See, even if you have a gun it doesn't mean you are safe from predators. In fact it makes you a target for violence. If there weren't any guns in the home this lady would be alive today." etc, etc. I can already hear it coming.
 
As I see it, this is proof positive that she DID NEED to be armed 24/7. It's just too bad that she happened to be married to that reason.

Dave Sinko
 
That dude was wacked enough to use a cordless carving knife, a 9 iron, or a freakin' waffle iron for that matter! A space heater into a bath tub, etc., etc. Perhaps Underwriters Laboratory will opine as will the Brady bunch?
 
I can't believe this quote, can you imagine the NRA getting anything close to this in an Associated Press article:

"After Hain sued DeLeo, the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, which says it tries to reform the gun industry through sensible regulations, offered to defend him for free."

How about "the National Rifle Association, which says it trys to protect the gun rights of Americans by working against senseless regulations....."

I think Duke is right, the Brady Bunch will plaster this all over the media and their web site as a prime example of why you shouldn't own a gun.
 
Yeah , the anti's are starting. One idiot posted in our local paper that this proves that only cops should have guns.

HELLO , her husband WAS A COP (parole officer)!
 
Yeah , the anti's are starting. One idiot posted in our local paper that this proves that only cops should have guns.

Ugh, the open comment section of our paper is FULL of people whining about why we shouldn't have guns.

And whenever I get a notion to submit some comments of my own, and they get printed... Then it's just stirrin' the pot.
 
You can go here and post comments as i have done on page 8 and 9.I went through all 9 pages and have to admit i needed a shower after all the well crafted comments about how stupid she was and guns were evil and how bad redneck,neo-nazi,gun nuts really were.


www.nydailynews.com
once you click on the link,then go to discussions from there go to news where you will find the artical about gun-toting mom.click that and it will start your page for you.

Here are some of the opening quotes i shoved in for great bathroom reading.
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"The woman was a danger to her community, her family and herself. She got what she deserved, in the most fitting manner imaginable. Good riddance."

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Can you tell me any reason why this women would need a gun? Most gun deaths happen within the family or involve people they know. Not robbers, etc. You have a gun in your house, it is going to be used on YOU. And it was. Case closed.
 
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Nothing like regurgitating the same old tired talking points. While reading it, I'll bet you can almost smell wet wool?
I wish that just once, someone on the singing soprano side of this would come up with some new material as the reason for us to cringe, unarmed in a dark corner of our own home?
 
Here is a better, more accurate article:

Friends mourn death of gun-toting mom
Acquaintances say Meleanie Hain's death was a matter of domestic violence.
By JOHN LATIMER
Lebanon Daily News
Updated: 10/08/2009 11:26:07 PM EDT

Friends and supporters of gun-rights advocate Meleanie Hain mourned her death Thursday.

Hain, who gained national notoriety a year ago when she wore a holstered handgun to her 5-year-old daughter's soccer game, and her husband, Scott Hain, were found shot to death inside their South Second Avenue home Wednesday night in an apparent murder-suicide.

Investigators have released few details about the circumstances that led to the shootings, but neighbors said the Hains' three children ran from the house screaming, "Daddy shot Mommy," shortly after 6 p.m. The children, all between the ages of 2 and 10, escaped unharmed and were staying with neighbors as of Thursday afternoon.

Lebanon police Chief Daniel Wright said he was awaiting results of Thursday's autopsy on the Hains before releasing more details about the incident. The only new information he provided was that the couple were found on separate floors of the split-level brick house in the quiet southside neighborhood.

Police were called to the Hain home shortly after the children escaped. Minutes later the Lebanon County Emergency Services Unit -- a specially trained tactical squad made up of officers from several municipal police departments -- and city police cordoned off the area and told neighbors to stay inside their homes.

Wright said the ESU responded quickly to the scene because it was already on a training mission.

Little transpired for the next two hours as police tried to establish contact with anyone
in the house. At about 8:30 p.m., the ESU entered the home, where it found the Hains' bodies.

After last year's incident at the soccer match, the 31-year-old Hain became a spokeswoman for open-carry advocates who support the right to wear a loaded weapon in public, a practice she often employed and which is legal in Pennsylvania.

On Thursday, other open-carry advocates who knew Hain said her death was a matter of domestic violence and should not be used to argue against the Second Amendment rights she championed.

"If Meleanie had never taken the firearm to the soccer game, regretfully, what happened (Wednesday) still would have happened," said Rich Banks, founder of paopencarry.org, a Web site devoted to the open-carry issue.

Banks said he came to know Hain as a kind and generous person through her postings on the Web site's discussion forum under the name "Shefearsnothing."

"In the end, her actions were not the ones that harmed anyone else," Banks said. "Agree with her or not, she was a good person who never harmed a soul, and I just hope people remember that."

Banks said he spoke with Hain regularly and occasionally saw her at the organization's training exercises, shooting-range trips and social functions. It was common knowledge among her friends that she was having problems with her husband, he said.

"A lot of people were aware of her marital issues," Banks said. "She did stuff that she didn't completely trust his reaction to. It was not a secret by any means. She has been considering her options for some time."

Despite the marital discord, no one expected a violent outcome, Banks said.

"I don't think anyone could have prevented this outcome other than Meleanie," he said.

Despite rumors to the contrary, a check of county records showed that Hain had not applied for a protection-from-abuse order from her 33-year-old husband, who was a parole officer in Berks County.

Hain's friend, Greg Rotz, organized a show of support last October when she had a court hearing to get her gun permit returned after it was taken away by Sheriff Mike DeLeo following the soccer incident. He was devastated to hear the news of Hain's slaying.

"I just saw her this past Saturday at a birthday party of a friend that she attended as well," he said. "She seemed fine -- like her normal self, to me."

Rotz also was aware of her marital problems but said he didn't think it would lead to her death.

"Those of us who knew her a little bit knew things weren't perfect at home," he said.

Although he doesn't know many details of her death, Rotz said Hain may have been unarmed if she could have used her weapon.

"I'm very curious to know if she happened to have her weapon on her," he said. "If she didn't, and she would have, it might have made a difference."
 
There was a witness:

A "soccer mom" from Pennsylvania who was thrust into the national gun-rights debate after taking a loaded pistol to youth sports events was killed by her husband in a shooting witnessed online by her video chat partner.

Scott Hain used his own gun to fire several shots into his wife, Meleanie, 30, while her video chat was active and perhaps as she washed dishes in their kitchen, police said. Mr Hain, 33, later killed himself in an upstairs bedroom.

Mrs Hain's loaded pistol — with a bullet ready in the chamber — was in a backpack hanging from the front door. Mr Hain was seen firing the gun at his wife over the internet.
 
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