EDC/CCW vs CARRY COMFORT - MY LIFE'S EXPERIENCE

My 642 in a Desantis holster in my right front pocket is what I carry most of the time as I leave my home. Unlike OWB or IWB, pocket carry allows you to have your hand on the gun, ready to draw if needed, without anyone around you being aware that you are carrying.
 
I agree with your assessment!

I have come to love and appreciate the JFrame platform. It's all I carry, 99% of the time. I am also 100% revolver guy.

I live a casual lifestyle. I am not kicking in doors and busting punks. I avoid trouble as much as possible. It's better to be armed at all times, than to have a big blaster at home. That's how I feel.

In 15+ years of CCW (since I was 18) and got my first permit (my state was 18) I've never had to use it or have a shoot out. Reality vs Fantasy is, thankfully, most of us don't have to use our guns in defense and we might as well be comfortable toting it.

Two back injuries as well from working hard, I don't need any extra unneeded weight.

The older we get, the more you realize what's important, what's not, and what you don't want. I don't want to be uncomfortable as much as possible...
 
I watch guys closely that have there hand in the pocket for any length of time. When your hand is over the grip or wrapped around a grip it is noticeable to some of us at least . Don't get caught needing your pocket carry NOW when your seated . You can gather attention worming around to draw that pocket carry .

Just when you feel like your fast on the draw you see a guy like this at the range ! - He makes me feel like a turtle on a cold day .
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I pocket carry wearing commercially available carry shorts and trousers. The ambidextrous holster pockets allow carry of almost any pistol I would want. More importantly, the pocket opening has concealed snaps under the waistband which allows the pocket to be instantly opened wide during a draw from the seated position. I agree that pocket carry in traditional clothing can be dicey if seated.
 
This is a really good discussion. The most important point in the OP is that if it's not comfortable, how likely are you to carry every day? Remember 5 shots of .38 Special in your front pocket is infinitely superior to 15 shots of 9mm Luger some place in your house.

Practice makes perfect. There are times for me when a 642/M&P 340 is most practical. That is a difficult firearm to shoot consistently. I try to take a small J-frame with me on every range trip. Just 10 or 15 rounds down range keeps me familiar with it. Similarly, any semiauto I carry has a thumb safety that functions like a 1911. Even my Sig P365. Disengaging the safety has to be part of presenting the gun. Always. You can choose not to have a thumb safety, but don't go back & forth.

I think it's also important to think about whether or not there may be circumstances where you need to leave your pistol in your vehicle or put it somewhere close but not on your person. When I traveled all over Virginia for business by car, I sometimes had to transfer my pocket carry to my briefcase/computer bag before going into a meeting. An IWB setup just wouldn't be practical, but tucking it into an outside pocket of my bag was fine provided I never left it behind anywhere.

A last thought is what are you going to do if you must use a public restroom? That may sound like a joke but anyone who had to travel for 2 or 3 days by car on business will understand what I'm talking about. Again IWB gets clumsy there.

Chief,

If I may add. As most of us know, the parameters of how, what, when, and when change with age.

Some can't tighten their belts due to back problems. Some of us get weaker and have trouble racking a slide or controlling recoil.

Aging gracefully ain't easy. But we do what we gotta do.

Change is hard. I've added too many pounds over the past 10 years and don't have much of a waist anymore. Belt & suspenders was always a joke but that's the best way to keep my pants up if I'm am carrying either pocket or on my belt.
 
I finally decided on a Colt Pony for everyday carry. 380, double action only. I shoot it well enough to keep all shot in a 6 inch circle shooting rapidly. It rides in a DeSantis 98 IWB holster and I have driven with it holstered for as many as 12 hours.

Interestingly I read an article today written by former LEO, Gary Johnston, and found this paragraph particularly telling.

"During my 28-year career in law enforcement and during the more than 25 years thereafter, I've continued to informally study as many handgun wounds as possible. Here's the kicker: I've either witnessed or known of more people stopped or killed instantly from one hit with a .22 LR or .22 Magnum bullet than any other. Seriously.

The most graphic example was an armed robber who was shot point blank with a .22 Magnum derringer. The bullet hit the lower part of perp's clavicle, breaking it, and went straight down doing extensive damage to most of his organs, glancing off his inner pelvis and stopping in his upper right thigh, rendering him a candidate for the Vienna Boys Choir in the process. Testing bullet paths and terminal ballistics in gelatin is fine, but you'll never shoot gelatin in a gunfight."
 
Late to the party but..............

First off, even Jeff Cooper owned a model 60 for suit & tie occasions. Apparently didn't have a good tailor, but let's let the fact stand.

It's true that the vast majority of defensive gun uses don't involve actually firing the gun. However, while most folks don't want to get shot, there are those who accept the possibility/fact of getting shot as the price of doing business. There are some highly motivated (or medicated) individuals out there. Also, psychopaths/sociopaths regard the rest of us as a lower life form existing to satisfy their needs.

When I first started carrying the choices were pretty much service size guns and snubbys with itty bitty grips. I mostly went for the service size and found good holsters. As Clint Smith notes, carry is supposed to be comforting, not (necessarily) comfortable.

Regardless of your personal choice, should you have to use the gun, you need to be able to hit one of the aggressors "off switches" with whatever you carry. A hit anywhere between the chin and the 'nads might work, but don't bet your life on it. The guys with the .22s in the post above knew where the "off switches" were (or got lucky) and hit them.
 
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I agree, folks ought to carry what they are comfortable carrying and shooting.

I too have gone to a tad bit lighter in my twilight days.

Cobbled up myself another holster to carry my lightweight
Commander 10mm on my pant belt.

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A must for those that CCW every day is lots of practice drawing from concealment. If not, try getting to a holstered gun with a heavy coat on or drawing from a pocket when you are thrown to the ground.
 
I have lots of great duty type guns that were great for self defense but big , heavy and uncomfortable to carry. I'd carry about 50 % of the time , at best. Still have all those great guns , but since I got a S&W 340 , 357 ,and a pocket holster , I carry 100% of the time. For that reason I say it's my best EDC gun, because I always have it.
 
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I tried to carry a Kimber 1911 ultra carry in a very good leather iwb holster but just couldn't carry it comfortably. My daily carry now is either a hellcat or a s&w equalizer with 13 plus one and a 15 round back up in a Gould and Goodrich mag holder along with a Kershaw knife. I can carry this with jeans and a t shirt or shorts and a t shirt year round comfortably with no issues. I have never tucked my shirts so this isn't an issue. I used to carry a lcp in a back pocket holster on the rare occasion I had to dress up but never felt comfortable sitting on it loaded so I never carried it with one in the chamber.
 
I finally decided on a Colt Pony for everyday carry. 380, double action only. I shoot it well enough to keep all shot in a 6 inch circle shooting rapidly. It rides in a DeSantis 98 IWB holster and I have driven with it holstered for as many as 12 hours.

Interestingly I read an article today written by former LEO, Gary Johnston, and found this paragraph particularly telling.

"During my 28-year career in law enforcement and during the more than 25 years thereafter, I've continued to informally study as many handgun wounds as possible. Here's the kicker: I've either witnessed or known of more people stopped or killed instantly from one hit with a .22 LR or .22 Magnum bullet than any other. Seriously.

The most graphic example was an armed robber who was shot point blank with a .22 Magnum derringer. The bullet hit the lower part of perp's clavicle, breaking it, and went straight down doing extensive damage to most of his organs, glancing off his inner pelvis and stopping in his upper right thigh, rendering him a candidate for the Vienna Boys Choir in the process. Testing bullet paths and terminal ballistics in gelatin is fine, but you'll never shoot gelatin in a gunfight."

Any gun is better than no gun.

It is against human nature to want to be shot. 22s and 22 Mags from a medical standpoint do work and do cause a lot of damage. They tend to act erratic or ricochet in the body. I prefer 38 and above, but they work more often then not... plus, quick follow-up shots.
 
I read lots of posts here on how, where and when to carry. There are many different types of guns being carried, different sized people, builds, climate differences, dress codes, laws, etc. that of course will all contribute to the mix. Sometimes sacrifices must be made as to caliber, gun designs, capacities, holster types etc. as well.

I can only comment on my personal experience but I try desperately to convey this to everyone that asks me locally. IMHO, if you intend on carrying - then carry all the time. You know Murphy's Law, the one time you leave it home is the one time you might need it. If you don't feel the need to carry - that's fine too - personal choice.

I can not and will not carry a gun for any length of time that is uncomfortable, period! If the gun is uncomfortable then you will tend not to have it on you. Obviously there is a fine line between comfort, the type of gun being carried by said individual and how it is carried. Now I realize that when you first start to carry, you will feel "different". There is something to be said about getting used to carrying an unnatural piece of metal on you. That's sort of a "learning curve" if you will. I am taking about something like this..... When I was in my 20's, I read many Gun Rag articles about how real men only carried 1911's, .44 N Frames, etc. I tried desperately to carry a 1911 concealed. That ordeal lasted only 2 weeks - and I could not take it any longer! Way too heavy, bulky and large for a CCW the way I had to dress. Of course I did not have the great, well designed holsters I now own, but still..... I could not walk 5 steps without hiking up my pants! I had to be honest with myself and back down to a J frame 2" Chief's Special. OK - not nearly as high capacity, powerful or authoritative as the .45 is, but at least I could carry, conceal and move around all day in everyday life with the J Frame on. At that time I felt reasonably well armed, never let my gun show and was never spotted carrying. I always had the gun with me! You know the saying, better to have a 5 shot .38 Spl. in your pocket than the much more powerful .45 you left at home.

I am also one that could NEVER "dress around the gun". I want to wear what I want when I want and not have to look out of place wearing a Photographer's vest, Biker's vest, sweater, etc. when it's 90º outside. Don't want to wear long pants when it's 100º outside or look like a slob wearing a shirt out when it is inappropriate.

Therefore, when "new to gun people" ask my advise on what to buy for CCW, I let them come over and see what gun options and caliber options there are (only if I know them well of course). Then if possible I suggest they rent different models and brands at the Range and let them shoot them. I also suggest they be honest with themselves about what they are and are not willing to tote around all day. Believe it or not, sometimes that's not so easy!

Anyway, although I have my likes and dislikes (as we all do) about calibers, gun brands, auto's vs semi-auto's etc. I always try to settle on what truly will always work for me and will always be with me. I feel well armed, practice a lot, and maintain said CCW gun.

Just figured I'd post this because in the last few years in our new home I have been asked many many times about this very subject and feel it just might help a few new guys here. In general I say, carry the best caliber in the highest capacity that you will feel comfortable wearing all day and every day. If that means stepping down a size in gun or caliber, better that than to leave it at home.

This is really meant mostly for newbies as I realize most of us here have lots of experience, knowledge and toting experience and truthfully, I don't really know how many here are new to gun toting. But hey, if this helps only a handful of people, better that than none. AND.... if you have been carrying for a while and not comfortable, it might help too. :)

Regards,
Chief38
Well said.
For routine every day carry, if it weighs over about 22 ounces or won't fit in my pocket, I ain't carryin' it.
 
About the only "dress around" compromise I'll make is wearing in undershirt to provide a barrier between gun and holster and skin.
And even then, the undershirt is for MY comfort. ;)
AGE. :( As a young man I was willing and able to carry a 1911, S&W K frame, etc. with a crappy belt and holster. Somewhere along the line, not so much and ended up with a 638 with a quality belt and holster and even that is just too much sometimes. Yup, lazy, not dedicated enough, whatever, but not, not serious enough. I'm serious enough to know me and take steps to deal with it. Some days small is all I'll tolerate.
1892069-d246af9f8cad15cc61476da5ee5f839a (1).webp I understand that the bigger grips are contrary to the small idea, but with my stiff hand, I got to be able to hold the damn thing.
 
Been carrying a J frame Airweight as BUG or primary for 53 years with 30 OTJ. Being a geezer I've moved to a 340 PD due to weight. While the J frame is slightly wider than my G42 or 365 it's significantly lighter and the weight is in the cylinder which is directly held up by the belt. Bottom feeders have the weight in the grip, pulling it outward. This makes my revolver carry more comfortably for me. YMMV.
 
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