Handling the M&P 9mm

[clarkstoncz]

I'm new to the M&P game, but like what I see and hear on the net about them.

Fondled a M&P 9mm yesterday. It had the mag disconnect.

Ergonomics were spot on for me. Felt and pointed much like a fat gripped, very light CZ75.

Trigger: seemed to have some empty airspace before the take up, but the
trigger was light and smoooth without being gritty.

Not as nice as the Compact 9 at Cabela's in Idaho.

Nothing that a few hundred rounds wouldn't take care of, I'm sure.

 

[clarkstoncz]

I'm new to the M&P game, but like what I see and hear on the net about them.

Fondled a M&P 9mm yesterday. It had the mag disconnect.

Ergonomics were spot on for me. Felt and pointed much like a fat gripped, very light CZ75.

Trigger: seemed to have some empty airspace before the take up, but the
trigger was light and smoooth without being gritty.

Not as nice as the Compact 9 at Cabela's in Idaho.

Nothing that a few hundred rounds wouldn't take care of, I'm sure.

 

[hipoint995]

I love my MP9, the next pistol will the the M&P 45

 

[rollback88]

I have a full size M&P9 without the mag disconnect and a 9c with the mag disconnect. Neither have an internal lock. The mag disconnect is a bit of a hassle when cleaning, etc. because a mag has to be inserted to release the pre-staged striker.

Dry-firing even with snap caps do not do the triggers justice. The take up on the first round is reasonable, but it is the minimal return it takes to set for the following rounds that is really sweet.

Both guns are good stuff. I target shoot revolvers mostly. I got the M&Ps specifically for home defense and carry, but they are fun to shoot from time to time. Ironically, I am more accurate with the compact than the full size. Neither are worth much for grouping past about 15 yards for me.

Lot of words to say that the M&P is a great gun. If you were to have only one gun to serve as a defense and "fun" gun, the M&P would be on the short list.

--jcd

 

[WR Moore]

Originally posted by rollback88:
The mag disconnect is a bit of a hassle when cleaning, etc. because a mag has to be inserted to release the pre-staged striker.
--jcd

And you're doing this why????? This step isn't necessary. The sear release lever gets the sear out of the way for removing the slide. Even if you're going to pull the firing pin, depressing the firing pin safety plunger will release the striker.

 

[Wyatt Earp]

Originally posted by WR Moore:

Originally posted by rollback88:
The mag disconnect is a bit of a hassle when cleaning, etc. because a mag has to be inserted to release the pre-staged striker.
--jcd

And you're doing this why????? This step isn't necessary. The sear release lever gets the sear out of the way for removing the slide. Even if you're going to pull the firing pin, depressing the firing pin safety plunger will release the striker.

+1

RTFM

 

[rollback88]

Ok. Guess I don't need to do that any more.

--jcd

 

[greener]

they hid that step in the manual. Took months before I read it.

 

[Wayne02]

Can you get the compact nine with no magazine disconnect and no lock?

 

[rollback88]

Yes. This is a link for the 12 round with no lock and no mag disconnect.

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/man...31/products_id/41347

 

[shawn mccarver]

Originally posted by rollback88:
The mag disconnect is a bit of a hassle when cleaning, etc. because a mag has to be inserted to release the pre-staged striker.
--jcd

I thought the whole world was aware by now that ONE of the big claims to fame of the M&P auto pistol is NOT having to pull the trigger for disassembly like a competitor.

Many cops have made holes in the floors, ceilings and walls of police stations everywhere because they forget to unload the pistol prior to disassembly. S&W's design makes pulling the trigger not necessary for disassembly by substituting the step of releasing the striker. You don't have to use the grip tool. The eraser end of a pencil or the plastic end of a bic pen works fine. Your fingertip is fine too, but be careful not to cause the slide to slam shut while your finger is in the magazine well releasing the striker!

 

[rollback88]

I generally live in my own little world, but I wasn't pulling the trigger in order to disassemble (didn't know any brand/design required such a step - sounds dumb, though). I was doing it because I didn't want to store it "cocked"; now I know, it really isn't and there is not full tension on the spring like there is with, say the hammer system on my model 41 (which also has the mag disconnect).

The open end of a cleaning rod works well for moving the take down lever on the M&P. Almost anything is easier for me to use rather than removing the actual tool from the grip.

--jcd

 

[David Hineline]

I have the no external safety, no kiddie keylock, no magazine disconnect version of the M+P and the striker and sriker sping are absolutly fully compressed and cocked untill you pull the trigger.

Not having read the manual I saw no way to get the slide off without pulling the trigger, a check of the manual shows the sear deactivation lever, which locks the sear down so the slide can come off without the striker catching on the sear.

 

[David Hineline]

Ok looking again the sear and the striker do have reverse cut tapers on them so pulling the trigger does move the striker back, I would guess maybe .010 of an inch, not much at all.

I suspect this reverse angle cuts are the main cause of the heavy trigger pull.

 

[WR Moore]

Originally posted by David Hineline:
Ok looking again the sear and the striker do have reverse cut tapers on them so pulling the trigger does move the striker back, I would guess maybe .010 of an inch, not much at all.

I suspect this reverse angle cuts are the main cause of the heavy trigger pull.

The striker has no taper cut, the sear is an arc of a circle. This allows the sear to smoothly roll the striker back.

If you think the M&P trigger is heavy, you've never experienced an actual military issue 1911-or any other military issue sidearm-trigger. You've no idea how good you have it now.

 

[David Hineline]

Considering I just today filed the tapered step off the back of the sear and the trigger improved a lot I would say you have not looked at yours very close.

 

[gmchenry]

You've got to love the new guys that can improve S&W triggers with ballpoint pen springs or a sharp file. At least they're graduating up from Sigmas to M&Ps.

 

[David Hineline]

Or the old guys who can't do the simplest things without hiring a profesional. Just because I don't have 8000 posts on this forum does not mean I am not smarter than those who do.

I just followed this guide.

http://www.burwellgunsmithing.com/misc/M&Ptriggerjob.pdf