Hannah Gutierrez-Reed gets 18 Months

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As little as I think of Baldwin and despite my inclination to favor Thell Reed's daughter, she probably IS the most culpable in this tragic event. And I still say that WE know what we are doing, Hollywood is a bunch of idiots who think that their feces is beneficently fragrant, and Baldwin isn't even as smart as Hollywood in general.
 
Setting the stage with a scapegoat.
I dislike Baldwin as much as anyone here, but if you can get past that (it is very difficult for me), and get past his lying excuses, he is not the root cause of the incident, given his stupid reliance on Hollywood ways of doing things, rather than long-established American (and probably most foreign) tradition.

It was not improper to blame Hannah Reed for the mishap. It may not be improper to blame some others.

My own opinion, certainly not the last word, is that Hollywood rules should be trashed and standard American rules re-instituted, regardless of the effect on motion pictures (minimal, in my educated opinion). But it is hard to avoid the fact that Reed did not even function properly within the Hollywood rules. I wonder who else was involved in that.
 
And Famous VIP Alec, who pointed the gun at living humans and pulled the trigger without first checking the gun and ammo?

Let's see if Equal Justice exists and is blind, or whether some animals are more equal than others.

I think we all know the answer on that one, based on events over the last 15 years.
 
Not that I have followed the case that closely, but the woman just convicted and sentenced to 18 months in prison was the armorer on the set, the professional employed to be responsible for the weapons and their safe use.

Live rounds were found mixed with dummy rounds. (Early reports, not sure if they were accurate, even had people on the set plinking with live ammo.) A juror in the CNN link above says that she, the armorer, did not even check the ammo to ensure its safety.

A woman is dead as a result.

Eighteen months sounds like a pretty light sentence to me.

Hopefully everyone on this forum knows that the individual holding the gun is ultimately responsible for its safe use. We all know this as gun enthusiasts.

Still, would any of us consider ourselves not responsible if a house guest accessed a loaded gun of ours that we'd left accessible and out of ignorance or carelessness (or malice, for that matter) shot to death another guest?

I think not.
 
I saw the news clip of the judge's comments as she pronounced the sentence. It appears that Ms. Reed was her own worst enemy according to the many comments that she made after the incident and all the way up to and after the trial. The judge took Reed's attitude and statements into consideration and gave her the maximum time behind bars.

Plenty of blame to go around regarding the tragedy. The one guy who got off scott free was the one who actually handed the gun to Baldwin. He was certainly part of the perfect storm that occurred. Now let's see just how culpable that Baldwin is.

I understand that the Screen Actors Guild is paying for his lawyers ? Not sure just how accurate that is but one way or another he's certainly going to have better representation than Ms. Reed did.
 
So let's tell Hollywood that if they want to make movies with guns, all the actors involved need to be trained and certified proficient with firearms. That'll fix the issue.

(Pause for most here to crack ribs with laughter, and half of Hollywood to stroke out in indignation)
 
... Eighteen months sounds like a pretty light sentence to me. ...
Can anyone here translate "18 month sentence" to "months actually spent behind bars"?

My guess is that the latter will be in the low single digits.
 
She was the armorer, responsible for firearms and their “condition” on set. Allowing “downtime recreational shooting” with live ammo and later allowing said firearms/ammo uncontrolled unchecked is negligent. Thell never would have let that happen. Then again he would have slapped Baldwin upside his head for him having his finger on the trigger with thumb on a full cocked hammer. Joe
 
Movie guns exist to point at people. That's why someone has an entire job of making sure it is safe to do so. And it is why the rules of gun safety wouldn't work. It's also why movie production rules include, "No live ammo anywhere on the set." That's one of their primary rules.

Baldwin was a dumbass. But he wasn't a perp.
 
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