Has anyone here shot anyone as a civilian?

Have not, but something to think about. I went out with my S&W 5904 on a very cold, below zero, night to shoot a coyote howling every night. I put on heavy gloves grabbed the 5904 and racked the slide outside the house. My black lab went with me. I had a flashlight and my dog came towards me running. His eyes reflected green and the coyote was right behind him, his eyes reflecting yellow. I aimed between the coyotes eyes and pulled the trigger - nothing. When the coyotes spotted me he fled. When I got back to the house I saw the problem. The heavy glove kept the trigger out of battery. It hit me like a brick as I had noticed this before on my Winchester 101 shotgun. Just something to think about when confronting a trespasser in very cold weather. If you push the gloved trigger finger forward, you can hear the trigger engage.
 
Yes, as a civilian, I shot a civilian. ............. I shot myself. Hurt like hell.
A friend did that. She was a mostly untrained (feckless husband) and thought her laser wasn't working so she put her hand in front of it and pulled the trigger.

Of course, my brother-in-law lopped off my sister's finger with a hedge trimmer...
 
A friend did that. She was a mostly untrained (feckless husband) and thought her laser wasn't working so she put her hand in front of it and pulled the trigger.

Of course, my brother-in-law lopped off my sister's finger with a hedge trimmer...
I once hear that a blonde neighbor once became despondent because her husband was so abusive and threatening with his gun. So, she grabbed her husbands .45 out of his hand and put it up to her right ear and pulled the trigger. Danged if she didn't hit her husband in the head and solved the problem . . . . .
 
When I was a kid (1977-1980) I went to Western Hills Elementary School on 66th and Western in Omaha Nebraska. Our janitor was a guy named Mr McMurray.

I never paid a lot of attention to Mr. McMurray until he started talking about his experiences in World War II. He had a bunch of stories and all the guys used to get around and listen to him tell them.

I'm not going to tell you that we found out after he died he was a medal of honor awardee or anything like that and he kept the stories age appropriate and not particularly gory. If I remember right he was an 11B who fought in the European theater. And that's about as much as I could tell you.

One day I asked him if he'd ever killed anybody and I watched his entire countenance change. Even as a stupid little 10-year-old kid, I saw and understood the pain in his eyes. He looked at me and said "Oh let's not talk about that." and I never ever asked him again and I've never asked anybody else that question ever.

I knew a guy in Georgia who was in the middle of a robbery at a waffle house and killed the robber.

We were talking at a VA Fatboy club meeting one day and whenever I go to those meetings I sit in the chair farthest from the door. And somebody asked me why and I explained Reaction Gap to them. I'm not sure how we got there but I also mentioned that I never sit near the cash register in a restaurant because of the friend of mine in Georgia who happened to be sitting right next to the cash register when the guy walked in and tried to rob the place.

There was one woman that came to the meetings and I made friends with her service dog so we got along. She basically said "Hey he took the trash out. I don't see the problem."

A few of the guys in the meeting were combat vets to be clear I am not I don't know if that woman was or not but they were looking at her like she was out of her mind.

I've never seen anybody that talked lightly about killing people who wasn't psychotic or lying.
 
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Why would anyone talk about this with there being no statute of limitations on murder. Even if you are willing to talk about things that happened in a combat zone, this is not the place to share. Make an appointment with the VA shrink!
 
When I was a kid (1977-1980) I went to Western Hills Elementary School on 66th and Western in Omaha Nebraska. Our janitor was a guy named Mr McMurray.

I never paid a lot of attention to Mr. McMurray until he started talking about his experiences in World War II. He had a bunch of stories and all the guys used to get around and listen to him tell them.

I'm not going to tell you that we found out after he died he was a medal of honor awardee or anything like that and he kept the stories age appropriate and not particularly gory. If I remember right he was an 11B who fought in the European theater. And that's about as much as I could tell you.

One day I asked him if he'd ever killed anybody and I watched his entire countenance change. Even as a stupid little 10-year-old kid, I saw and understood the pain in his eyes. He looked at me and said "Oh let's not talk about that." and I never ever asked him again and I've never asked anybody else that question ever.

I knew a guy in Georgia who was in the middle of a robbery at a waffle house and killed the robber.

We were talking at a VA Fatboy club meeting one day and whenever I go to those meetings I sit in the chair farthest from the door. And somebody asked me why and I explained Reaction Gap to them. I'm not sure how we got there but I also mentioned that I never sit near the cash register in a restaurant because of the friend of mine in Georgia who happened to be sitting right next to the cash register when the guy walked in and tried to rob the place.

There was one woman that came to the meetings and I made friends with her service dog so we got along. She basically said "Hey he took the trash out. I don't see the problem."

A few of the guys in the meeting were combat vets to be clear I am not I don't know if that woman was or not but they were looking at her like she was out of her mind.

I've never seen anybody that talked lightly about killing people who wasn't psychotic or lying.
I have great empathy for most anyone who wears those shoes, for life ..... ☹️
 

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