Now biggest thing I’ll be shooting is deer. Out of 30 cal rifle 150gr is hard to beat. Only reason I load heavy RN bullets is that is all my old 1895 will shoot. Remington use to sell a 170gr RN CL they called their universal 30 cal bullet. It’s what they loaded in their quasi obsolete 30cal cartridges. Was a deer killer in the 1895 but Rem quit selling it.
Have you tried these in a 30/06 ?
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You didn't mention the twist rate of your new barrel.
In 2009 I bought a WWII bring-back Mauser K98 that had been converted to .30-06. It had a Timney target trigger added, and the 26" barrel had a 1-12 twist.
With 150gr Remington Core-Loct bullets and IMR 4895, I could cover three shots at 100 yards with a quarter.
The best combo with 165gr CLs and IMR 4350 gave three shots under a nickel at 100 yards.
However, the best I could get with 180gr CLs was about 2" at 100 yards. Those were apparently too heavy to group well with that twist rate.
In 2009 I bought a WWII bring-back Mauser K98 that had been converted to .30-06. It had a Timney target trigger added, and the 26" barrel had a 1-12 twist.
With 150gr Remington Core-Loct bullets and IMR 4895, I could cover three shots at 100 yards with a quarter.
The best combo with 165gr CLs and IMR 4350 gave three shots under a nickel at 100 yards.
However, the best I could get with 180gr CLs was about 2" at 100 yards. Those were apparently too heavy to group well with that twist rate.
medic15al
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RL-17 has given a consistent 3000fps out of out Win. Model 70 Featherweight 22in Bbl. with 165 Nosler Ballistic Tips w/ book max.
One batch loaded with 150 NBTs clocked 3110fps. No pressure sign and only .2 grain over book max. Most accurate load for 150 and 165 NBTs.
Have a Kimber Classic Select 06 It shoots The Hornady 165 SSTs in front of a factory load of Superformance to over 300 H&H velocities but it is a 26 inch bbl.. I get 3/4 inch groups consistently I can exchange the 165 Nosler Avvubond to get the same velocities but add an eighth inch to the groups. I have a friend frpm back east(he just visited) who is numb from the neck up when shooting a rifle and he can consistently shoot under a 1/2 inch with the Accubonds in that rifle. I am going to sell the CS 300 Win Mag Kimber and will shoot the 06 for elk. I figure that is good for 400 yards...Far 'nuff for me. And there other good newer powders too
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Dieseltech56
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I went off on a load tangent with a 22-250. Damn near had the barrel shot out before I found the absolute best speed and accuracy. I won’t do that again especially with a hunting rifle. I started to a little with the 30-06 but I calmed myself and stuck with 4350
cmj8591
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I had a bad experience with a 165g Ballistic Tip in a 30-06 about 30 years ago when they first hit the market. I hit a white tail dead square in the chest at about 90 yards. The bullet blew up and did not penetrate the breast bone. It tore away a piece of hide about the size of my hand. Fortunately, the deer turned sideways to me and I was able to put one through its lungs. After that I switched to 165g Partitions. I have not lost a deer since or had to shoot one more than once. The bullet is rarely recovered even with shoulder shots from side to side. Most of the time, both shoulders are broken and the deer is dead before it hits the ground. I am an absolute disciple of the Nosler Partition.
medic15al
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Up there the deer are larger and bulkier than here in the South. A good many of the Does and spikes/fork horns harvested here are not much bigger an a large Great Dane.
Here a 60 grain Nosler Partition loaded to ~3050 fps out of a 20in barrel AR will penetrate bow to stern and exit with great damage. I personally believe a .243 Win should be minimal.
I've had all bang/flops with the original 165 Ballistic Tips out to 86 yds on chest shots.
Cdog
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Over the years Reloader 15 and 19 have been "Go To" powders for me.
I haven't loaded but just a few rifle rounds in the last five years or so.
I'd be curious of your findings with these newer powders.
I haven't loaded but just a few rifle rounds in the last five years or so.
I'd be curious of your findings with these newer powders.
cmj8591
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This particular deer was shot in western Maine and dressed out at 240lbs.
Back in the early 80's I got my first 30-06. It was a model 78 Remington with a Simmons 4-10x40 scope and 5 boxes of 185gr Remington Deer Hunter ammo. It was a package deal at the time. The 78 was a no frills 700 with a plain birch stock. I still have over half a box of that ammo. After the scope sight in it has been one shot, one kill. Great caliber and great gun.
The scope failed on the first outing where the windage protrusion popped off when I was lowering the rifle out of the deer stand. Under warranty, Simmons upgraded the scope to a TV view 4-12x50 that took 3 shots to zero. This was their premium scope at that time.
I latter picked up a well used M1 Garrand and loaded every 30-06 case I could get a hold of with 49 grains of IMR-4895 and a 150gr bullet. The basic military load. Fun gun, but sadly, some modern ammo made it's way into the clips and I ruined it. I traded it for a Rack Grade CMP M1 that gets only 49 gr of IMR-4895 and a 150gr bullets.
For deer hunting the model 78 is the goto rifle. I have 14 more bullets before I need to make a change as that ammo isn't available anymore.
The scope failed on the first outing where the windage protrusion popped off when I was lowering the rifle out of the deer stand. Under warranty, Simmons upgraded the scope to a TV view 4-12x50 that took 3 shots to zero. This was their premium scope at that time.
I latter picked up a well used M1 Garrand and loaded every 30-06 case I could get a hold of with 49 grains of IMR-4895 and a 150gr bullet. The basic military load. Fun gun, but sadly, some modern ammo made it's way into the clips and I ruined it. I traded it for a Rack Grade CMP M1 that gets only 49 gr of IMR-4895 and a 150gr bullets.
For deer hunting the model 78 is the goto rifle. I have 14 more bullets before I need to make a change as that ammo isn't available anymore.
medic15al
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cmj8591
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I was at Ft. McClellen in the early 80's and couldn't believe the number of deer I saw. They were like rabbits. There have been week long hunts in Maine where I never even saw one deer so I guess it balances out. Sometimes the 74lb ones are as hard to get as the 240lb ones but the 74lb one always taste better and they're just as much fun to hunt!
74 pounds of deer meat......................
beats the heck out of not drawing a tag, any day !!
beats the heck out of not drawing a tag, any day !!
medic15al
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Indeed! I just take the straps and give club members and friends what they want.
medic15al
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Yeah, dad being in the 20th We were out there constantly and saw them all over.
I'm hearing the residences out the on the closed fort are still reporting being overun.
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