Hearing aides ... which one?

I have been wearing Starkey Halo hearing aids since they came out, and the Starkey Xino before that. I can't imagine life without them.
The first time I hear birds chirping in the street lamp nest outside our kitchen in Italy brought tears to my eyes.
They are spendy. About $1500 per side. They are Bluetooth enabled which is cool. I can listen to music on them.
 
Which one? The one that will correct your hearing loss and can be programmed so it works correctly at the different frequencies where you have loss. I got my first pair about 15 years ago. As my hearing deteriorated they had to be replaced because they couldn't give enough amplification. I now have a Widex Mind 19 in one ear and a Widex Super in the other. The latter have proven to be more reliable than the old Siemens. The Siemens would have to go back to their mother ship about every other year for an overhaul. The Widex Mind has never been back in over 5 years and the Super has had to go back twice in 5 years. Now to be fair the audiologist told me up front that the Super would need new wires about every 8 months but I have gotten at least 14 months between overhauls.

My suggestion would be to go to an audiologist not a hearing instrument specialist because the former has years of education about hearing problems and how to correct them rather than months. I would also go to someone who can pick from different models and brands in order to get the aid that will work best for you rather than being restricted to one or two models of one brand.

Mine ran me $1500 for one and $1700 for the other. Overhauls are $300. Programming is $75 for the pair and in-office cleanings and retubings are $35 for one or $50 for both. Check the prices for these routine after sale services that you will need. For me it is cheaper to get a power cleaning of my ears and hearing test from my Dr. (thanks to Medicare) that to get it from the audiologist.

is it worth it????????? You bet!!! Not being able to hear or understand what others are saying separates you from the people you know and love. So do yourself (and them) a favor and get the aids that will work for you.
 
I have Phonak brand, behind the ear. They are my second set, I don't recall the brand of the first ones. Mine were provided by the VA, took about 6 months from the time I filed a claim through the local VA assistance rep. Went to Truman Medical Center in Columbia MO for testing and later for fitting. These are programed for the specific ranges I have hearing loss in and it is amazing how well they work.

The day I got fit for these as I was leaving and I put my jacket on, I heard the rustle of the sleeve as I put my arm down it, and that was the first time I had heard that in many many years. My USAF records showed a pre and post service hearing test with just above 10% loss back in 63 when I was discharged. I didn't file until about 10 years ago when my wife finally convinced me I needed them.

How well do they work? Last summer I was going to the range to shoot. It was the time when the cicadas and the grasshoppers were all making that deafening chirping noise. As I pulled both aids out in preparation to putting my ear muffs on, it was like a switch was flipped, dead silence. I stuck the aids back in and the chirping resumed. I evidently found one of the ranges I have near complete loss in.
 
I can't say if all the VA hospitals are doing this, but Bay Pines has been giving hearing aids to ALL Vets, regardless of whether they have been service connected for anything or not.

When I got my first pair, summer of 2014 IIRC, I was the only one in my little group (they had about a 15 minute video they asked us to watch-don't recall a single thing about it) that had any service connected disability. One of the others was a WW2 vet, and the others were Viet Nam and later.

I got my second pair two years later when I went to get the ones I had "turned up" since the chemo I'd had for throat cancer seemed to have knocked out a little more of my hearing.

They said they had some new, state of the art ones and ordered me a pair.

I hope you'll be as blessed as I was.

Bob
 
I have Phonak brand, behind the ear. ...... These are programed for the specific ranges I have hearing loss in and it is amazing how well they work.

I think H Richard and I have the same aids. Mine are model B70. My experiences are much like his.

I sprang an additional $300.00 for re-chargeable so I don't have to mess with buying and replacing batteries. I plug them in each night like we used to do with cordless phones.

Actually, they will go 2 or maybe 3 days before they're totally dead. Even then, they fully recharge in about 2.5 hours.
 
Charlie, I went a different route. When first investigating getting aids I asked many people what they had, liked/disliked and cost. One fella old me about Lloyds Hearing Aids out of Chicago. Get the hearing test from your audiologist and send it to Lloyds. I did that about 7 yrs ago and cost was about $1800 for the pair. I got Reston behind the ear type. I understand they can't ship them into some states - Fla for sure. Might be worth looking in to. YMMV
 
Mrs. Pawncop and I got the Kirkland brand several months ago. $1,599 for each set, through Costco. Very satisfied with my initial set up and follow up.

Will note week end services must have an appointment but during weekdays is walk up without a problem.

I hope you find this helpful.
 
Charlie. What's your hearing loss? Get tested if you have not done so That will decide which level of aids you need. There are many quality aids on the market. Use an audiologist, at least for your first test vs a hearing aid specialist.
I gave Phonak. Behind the ear,(have had aids for 32 year) for profound hearing loss. and will soon get new ones, at about $2,500 per ear.
Hueys and door gunners are loud. Good luck.
 
I had no idea who made my equipment Reading this string motivated me to take one out and look at it. I expected to see 'Taiwan' but it said Phonak. I was told that hearing, unlike vision, cannot be fully restored, so this is an apples and oranges comparison, but compared to my corrective lenses the hearing aid cost over ten times as much and is about 20% as effective.

I have tried three devices. All were over priced and under-performing. Given my prior experience I think I can find better places to blow my money than by replacing the current gadget.

As a former VA employee I concur with previous advice to politely persevere. Eventually they may give you what you want just to shut you up. I also know from experience that policy may vary from one medical center to another.

As other have stated, get them through an audiologist and not some huckster operation.
 
I was in a 155mm battery in Nam 69-71. When I talked to the VA about 10 years ago,they said it was a no brainer and they would provide hearing aids.
The first ones I had were Starkeys they were ok, a few problems but they allways got them repaired quickly. The new ones are Resound GN with bluetooth. They are very comfortable. The va never charges me anything for them and batteries are mailed to me free.
the VA has been great for me.
 
On a related note .... this morning was my 90 day follow up on the hearing aids. You see, having paid good money to get them through my local medical clinic with an actual audiologist, all these follow ups are (free) .... included in the price I paid. They cleaned them, changed the widgets on the ear pieces, asked if I have any questions or problems, etc.

I noticed on his desk was a basket all decked out in red, white and blue with a couple of American flags in it. My South Korean born and raised audiologist and his South Korean born and raised wife are now officially U.S. citizens! They did it the right (legal) way, came here to study and work, took all the classes, passed all the tests, ets.

Great to see things work as they should. My ears and the guy who helped me get them working again.
 
Charlie,

This post reminded me of the situation from another retired Marine when he was asked by the V A rep if he had the dreaded ringing in his ears (tinnitus). He said that he wasn't sure what that was, but he said that he answered the telephone all day long, and there was no one on the other end calling him. He passed that test!

You're on the right trail. I first started using my hearing aids in 2000. I should have done it sooner. As I look back, my hearing loss from my flying days caused problems and resentment with other employees and my managers, post-retirement.

My comments are closest to those from cfplinker. Here are my thoughts and recommendations:

1. Continue to talk with others who have a hearing loss-hearing aids. There's nothing better than being an informed and educated patient. You'll know right away if the audiologist is BSing you, or trying to sell you expensive aids that you don't need. You'll also know if you are being treated correctly, and if the audiologist knows what he/she is doing.

2. Invest in excellent hearing protection devices. Protect the hearing that you still have. Avoid all noise hazard situations - at the range, in restaurants, concerts, meetings, where many people are gathered, etc.

3. The proper hearing aid should be provided to you to correct your current hearing loss. Hearing aids are also amplifiers. They stimulate the auditory nerve in the frequencies that have been lost due to damage to that nerve.

4. In my case, I was exposed to extended periods of high frequency noise (jet engines). The damages began in the high-frequency range and gradually progressed in to the lower (human speech) range. The loss is progressive and cannot be stopped.

5. The V A provides me with new hearing aids and batteries. Just as others veterans have stated. I have received excellent medical care from the V A.

6. Each hearing aid manufacturer incorporates the latest technology in to their products at different future periods. I have also had Starkey and Siemans aids. I am now using ReSound GN devices. The V A receives new products at the beginning of the new fiscal year (October) and will provide new aids to veterans every four or five years.

7. The hearing aid that you are provided should not be a device that amplifies all ranges of sound. It should be programmable and augment those frequencies that have been lost. At the end of the day, you should have your own existing frequency responses augmented or supplemented by your hearing aids.

8. I started with the "In The Ear" device. That provides a base level of amplification. The reception areas provided are limited based on your ears. Those of us who use the "Over The Ear" devices need more amplification and frequency supplementation.

9. Based upon your actual hearing loss, I would recommend a "programmable" device - one that offers (provides) different responses to different environments. For example, in my case I have one in which there is no conflicting noise (at home), one for being in a car (just road noise), and one in noisy areas (restaurants). The program and volume levels can be changed using my iPhone and the ReSound application. Some devices include a hand-held remote control (which I used to have) but it is not as good as the "app".

Any forum member can PM me if there are questions.

Bill
 
Got a pair of free basic Phonaks from the Navy Hospital in 2010. After 5 years they were giving me problems. In 2015 I paid 5K for Miracle ear aids and their customer service has been great, aid checkups and cleaning every 3 months, bluetooth enabled and hi tech. Last year I finally got a pair of Resound from the VA and they are more comfortable than the Miracle Ear, also bluetooth and hi tech, and free.
 
I've had my Starkey aids ($6K) for about six years and they are the biggest PITA I can imagine. I constantly have to mess with them, they amplify the background noise more than the voices I want to hear, and if the background noise is suppressed, voices get totally muddled. I can understand voices better with them out of my ears. Phone conversations require taking them both out.

The truth is, in a noisy situation they don't help, and in a quiet situation you don't need them.

I will continue to use them but it takes effort.
Scott
 
My daughter this year said " Dad, your getting deaf." BS I thought to myself. I can hear over the phone & TV is OK. But later on I discovered I could hear out of my left ear better than my right. So I answered an article in the American Hunter magazine for a hearing aid for 200 hundred bucks. As I am far from wealthy I took a chance. Took me awhile to get used to the damn thing but now hear much better. Turned the sound down on the TV & can hear my daughter much better. I've been alone 10 years now & live with her & her husband. Guess too many shots going off in my lifetime caused it or maybe old age. I blame the shooting. LOL.
 

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