Heavy Clothing Stops .38 Wadcutter!

[Echo40]

As someone who is subscribed to many firearms-related YouTube channels I can safely say that the vast majority of videos pertaining to firearms are either main to entertain or to generate buzz in order to bring in more viewers, ergo the vast majority of videos should be taken with a grain of salt and only those presented by professionals with experience, equipment, and understanding of how proper laboratory testing protocol is carried out should be taken as empirical evidence of anything.

Backyard Science with a Cronograph, a couple blocks of ClearBallistics Gel, and a random assortment of rags to simulate heavy clothing in which someone fires a mere 2-5 shots at the target then calls it a day at best represents one possible outcome under similar circumstances.
It's interesting, entertaining, and mildly educational, but shouldn't be treated as proof positive evidence to confirm or deny anything.

Seriously, once you've watched enough videos performing the same basic test spread out between several different channels, conducted under different environmental conditions, using different brands of firearms, different lots of ammunition, and a different random assortment of rags, you'll see that the results are seldom identical.

I guarantee that if more GunTubers attempted this experiment, you'd see a wider spread of different results, and suddenly this would all go out the window with only those suffering from confirmation biased on one side or another cherry-picking tests which went they way they think it will while everyone else yawns and goes about their business.

 

[rockquarry]

I think 1000fps for a 230gr bullet Is pretty decent. 25% more than 230 ball in a 45acp and will penetrate a treated 4x4. In my opinion that's way beyond decent. Accuracy? Head shots all day long at 10-15 yards. Plenty good for self defense.

Pardon me; I didn't read all the posts.

 

[Autonomous]

As someone who is subscribed to many firearms-related YouTube channels I can safely say that the vast majority of videos pertaining to firearms are either main to entertain or to generate buzz in order to bring in more viewers, ergo the vast majority of videos should be taken with a grain of salt and only those presented by professionals with experience, equipment, and understanding of how proper laboratory testing protocol is carried out should be taken as empirical evidence of anything.

Backyard Science with a Cronograph, a couple blocks of ClearBallistics Gel, and a random assortment of rags to simulate heavy clothing in which someone fires a mere 2-5 shots at the target then calls it a day at best represents one possible outcome under similar circumstances.
It's interesting, entertaining, and mildly educational, but shouldn't be treated as proof positive evidence to confirm or deny anything.

Seriously, once you've watched enough videos performing the same basic test spread out between several different channels, conducted under different environmental conditions, using different brands of firearms, different lots of ammunition, and a different random assortment of rags, you'll see that the results are seldom identical.

I guarantee that if more GunTubers attempted this experiment, you'd see a wider spread of different results, and suddenly this would all go out the window with only those suffering from confirmation biased on one side or another cherry-picking tests which went they way they think it will while everyone else yawns and goes about their business.

At first I thought I was looking at paragraphs but then realized they were sentences...

 

[Shibadog]

Many don't know that; hence the YouDupe believers.

Just remember a huge percentage of YouTube crap is AI generated garbage that is as full of crap as a Christmas goose. Anything that says "they just" or "it's worse" in the headings is bologna. Why the things that Bigfoot, Aliens, Government, Park Service, etc. etc. have found/done in the last few months is amazing

 

[Norton 750]

The lead round nose has decades of failures behind it in actual police shootings. Hard cast wadcutters as loaded by Underwood to around 1,000 fps have my confidence. If I were restricted to the round nose lead bullet in the .38 Special, I simply would not carry the .38 Special to protect myself or my loved ones. Shoots point of aim out of my pocket carried Bodyguard when I can't carry a proper firearm.

 

[Doug M.]

If you have concerns about the adequacy of penetration, the proper answer is to shoot them in the face.

 

[Rule3]

Good Grief Charlie Brown How long can this go on?

 

[Elder Shooter]

Just remember a huge percentage of YouTube crap is AI generated garbage that is as full of crap as a Christmas goose. Anything that says "they just" or "it's worse" in the headings is bologna. Why the things that Bigfoot, Aliens, Government, Park Service, etc. etc. have found/done in the last few months is amazing

All I have is Antenna TV but it keeps me fully informed on the status of Sasquatch and Alien research. After all, anything produced by or for the History and Discovery Channels is right out there on the cutting edge of Science. They have yet to do a series on the failure of the 38 Special cartridge, but when they do I know we can have faith in it.

 

[RebCop]

LOL , A target level wadcutter is very slow. Years ago when I was a young cop , my friend and I were allowed access to a junk yard to test the effectiveness of different loads on cars and such. The best load going at the time was the .38 special FBI load a 158 grn SWKHP +P. We shot through a windshield at a cardboard target with a 2" M-10 revolver. The bullet penetrated the glass and stuck in the cardboard. We were shocked and repeated the test with a 4" M-10 revolver. This time it penetrated the target and the seat and the rear seat and we found it in the trunk. Moral to the story was this load was not for 2" guns. I tested a .38 super hand load with a 100 grn FMJ on an old vest we had and it totally penetrated both panels and this was not a max load. Some loads nee longer barrels to be effective.

 

[Lt.Donn]

Good Grief Charlie Brown How long can this go on?

This horse has been beaten to death on multiple forums...largest obstacle to overcome is getting the avg civilian to embrace the concept of EDC...caliber is a minor concern.

 

[38SPL HV]

I prefer 38 Spl Full Wadcutter loads in my snubs with cast 148 gr DEWC…3.5 grs Bulleye or 4.0 grs W231. +P hollow points are reserved for longer barrels 4" and up.

 

[Oldsalt66]

After work hours, during a demonstration against local drug dealers in his neighborhood, one of my employees was shot 9 times with a 9mm and survived.

You never know.