Heiser I.D.

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Help with I.D. on the Heiser? Described to me as a model 21 holster for SAA 5.5 barrel? Value estimate?
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21 is actually the group size code as shown in the scans from a 1958 100th Anniversary catalog. The holster is a model M.
This is an example from Heiser’s Sportsman line, a low priced mass produced line brought out to compete with other budget lines. The holster is embossed-stamped-not hand carved. They are interesting and collectible holsters because of their place in Heiser’s history but they don’t command the prices that the custom made hand carved models do.
The catalog shows rivets on the top and bottom of the seam, it’s possible the holster you show has been shaved or cut at the top.
Regards,
Turnerriver
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I picked up a nice condition Heisser back in April. This appears to be a plain Jane holster like the first on the chart listed above. The No. on the back is 210. Any idea what fits in it?
 
I haven’t found a size chart for that series of holsters, a photo of the back might help. They were a short lived budget line, possibly before the Sportsman line although I can’t say that for certain.
Regards,
turnerriver
 
I picked up a nice condition Heisser back in April. This appears to be a plain Jane holster like the first on the chart listed above. The No. on the back is 210. Any idea what fits in it?

Translation for my friend turnerriver: he thinks he has told the OP, "Yes, the holster is for a 4-3/4" to 5-1/2" SAA" :-).

The three-digit numbering on Heisers is from their 'original' (that is, before Keyston) era and is the model number vs the fitment; so that one is perhaps more valuable. Agreed, pictures always clear up this kind of misunderstanding immediately; otherwise it's unpleasant guesswork.

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NOW he can tell you what it is :-).
 
I don't presently have photo capabilities, old flip phone, but the monogram on back is an oval, JH. H. Heiser, Maker (in middle) and Denver, Colo.
Both brown snaps say Heiser Denver.

Will this help in the identification?
 
I don't presently have photo capabilities, old flip phone, but the monogram on back is an oval, JH. H. Heiser, Maker (in middle) and Denver, Colo.
Both brown snaps say Heiser Denver.

Will this help in the identification?

The so-called 'football' logo of Heiser's was used the most of the half-dozen marks for Heiser, known to have appeared by 1930 and to have been used right the way through the end of Heiser while owned by Keyston. The brown snaps are considered to have appeared around the time of the Great Depression; likely your rivet heads are plain vs marked HHH. I suppose I don't know if the brown snaps were used through to the end! But I'd still expect 1930s/40s. Turnerriver will know and surely will reply to a PM you send him.

Some pics of the items you've mentioned:

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1 mark holster (2).jpg That's not a JH but rather a stylized H: Hermann Hugo Heiser.

No pics, no definitive answer; I'm unable to find any Heiser holster numbered 210.
 
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I provided the chart for the OP to find the information he sought and for others to have the resource going forward, no translation needed, I thought.
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Regards,
turnerriver

Translation for my friend turnerriver: he thinks he has told the OP, "Yes, the holster is for a 4-3/4" to 5-1/2" SAA" :-).

The three-digit numbering on Heisers is from their 'original' (that is, before Keyston) era and is the model number vs the fitment; so that one is perhaps more valuable. Agreed, pictures always clear up this kind of misunderstanding immediately; otherwise it's unpleasant guesswork.

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NOW he can tell you what it is :-).
 
The brown enamel Heiser Denver snaps first appeared in catalog number 38 which Holstory lists as dated 1946. The brown snaps were ubiquitous by the end of WW II, I don’t believe any of the old style brass 3 H snaps were used after the 1940’s.
Heiser had a couple of outlier model numbering systems, the photo on page 108 of Holstory of this holster shows one example, I’m thinking the model number 210 is another, late post-war outlier.
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Regards,
turnerriver
The so-called 'football' logo of Heiser's was used the most of the half-dozen marks for Heiser, known to have appeared by 1930 and to have been used right the way through the end of Heiser while owned by Keyston. The brown snaps are considered to have appeared around the time of the Great Depression; likely your rivet heads are plain vs marked HHH. I suppose I don't know if the brown snaps were used through to the end! But I'd still expect 1930s/40s. Turnerriver will know and surely will reply to a PM you send him.

Some pics of the items you've mentioned:

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View attachment 408119 That's not a JH but rather a stylized H: Hermann Hugo Heiser.

No pics, no definitive answer; I'm unable to find any Heiser holster numbered 210.
 
I provided the chart for the OP to find the information he sought and for others to have the resource going forward, no translation needed, I thought.
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Regards,
turnerriver

I knew that, John :-). My post wasn't meant to be a dig at you. I do find that what seems obvious to one, isn't obvious to others so it has to be made explicit! One of mine, was the chap I explained how he would drill a hole then drive a screw into it; both using a battery drill. Holding out the drill bit and the driver for him, then he wanted to know which one made the hole. But obvious, right? Not to him.
 
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