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ocguns,
What you have there is a Early Martially Marked 2nd Model Schofield judging by the Serial Number! If you look at the stampings on the Barrel Sides you will see the Schofield Patent Information. The 2nd Model Schofield's were produced from 1876 thru 1877. It has the potential of having considerable value if it is "Correct"!! Have you had a chance to remove the Grips yet? If not,very carefully remove them & see if there is a Serial Number stamped inside the Right Grip that matches the Number on the Butt. Also a couple more close-up photos would be helpful. Especially of the Lower Half of Both Grips below the Grip Screw to see if there are any traces of the Inspector Cartouches still existing. Alot of times these are hard to see because of dirt,grease & grime getting imbedded into them over the years,but "Please" don't make any attempt to clean them off for a better photo!! Also,could you give us a Barrel Length? There are quite a few other markings on the Cylinder & other Major Parts that need to match to make sure it's correct,but let's just start with the one's I've mentioned. Also where,when & how did you run across the Revolver? The reason I ask is it looks like it hasn't been handled in some time.
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What you have there is a Early Martially Marked 2nd Model Schofield judging by the Serial Number! If you look at the stampings on the Barrel Sides you will see the Schofield Patent Information. The 2nd Model Schofield's were produced from 1876 thru 1877. It has the potential of having considerable value if it is "Correct"!! Have you had a chance to remove the Grips yet? If not,very carefully remove them & see if there is a Serial Number stamped inside the Right Grip that matches the Number on the Butt. Also a couple more close-up photos would be helpful. Especially of the Lower Half of Both Grips below the Grip Screw to see if there are any traces of the Inspector Cartouches still existing. Alot of times these are hard to see because of dirt,grease & grime getting imbedded into them over the years,but "Please" don't make any attempt to clean them off for a better photo!! Also,could you give us a Barrel Length? There are quite a few other markings on the Cylinder & other Major Parts that need to match to make sure it's correct,but let's just start with the one's I've mentioned. Also where,when & how did you run across the Revolver? The reason I ask is it looks like it hasn't been handled in some time.
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Welcome to the forum with a most interesting first post. You have a early 2nd model Schofield that is worth some serious cash. I wish I had some "extra" scratch as I would love to have it. All that said the 'EXPERTS' will soon be along to discredit my estimation of its value.It looks too me to be in pretty nice shape and I should think some $4000 plus(auction might bring $6000) is in the works. Thanks for sharing a most interesting first post. Kyle
Thanks and some more info
Guys...thanks so much for the help. I removed the grips as you suggested and the serial numbers match (see attached photos). It's a 7" barrel. I've had it in my safe for about a decade and got it from a relative many years ago. What else can you suggest?
Guys...thanks so much for the help. I removed the grips as you suggested and the serial numbers match (see attached photos). It's a 7" barrel. I've had it in my safe for about a decade and got it from a relative many years ago. What else can you suggest?
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ocguns,
Yes,Welcome to the Forum!! Please excuse me for not welcoming you in my Original Post. And yes,this is a "Doosy" of a First-Time Post!!!
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Yes,Welcome to the Forum!! Please excuse me for not welcoming you in my Original Post. And yes,this is a "Doosy" of a First-Time Post!!!
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ocguns,
That was fast!! What were you doing taking photos while I was typing?? That's a great start having the Grips match and a Full-Length Barrel!! Did you catch my edit I made regarding some photos of the Outside Lower Section of the Grips? I got a litte better glimpse of the Finish in the one new photo you posted can you get a couple closer Full Side Shotos also?
Has this Revolver been in your family for quite some time? You mentioned a relative,but you didn't say how close of one. Do have any idea how long it was in their posession?
You'rr building value as I'm typing!! So far things are looking pretty good as to it's correctness. Do you have a plan in mind for the Revolver or are you looking to insure it? Talk to you soon!!
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That was fast!! What were you doing taking photos while I was typing?? That's a great start having the Grips match and a Full-Length Barrel!! Did you catch my edit I made regarding some photos of the Outside Lower Section of the Grips? I got a litte better glimpse of the Finish in the one new photo you posted can you get a couple closer Full Side Shotos also?
Has this Revolver been in your family for quite some time? You mentioned a relative,but you didn't say how close of one. Do have any idea how long it was in their posession?
You'rr building value as I'm typing!! So far things are looking pretty good as to it's correctness. Do you have a plan in mind for the Revolver or are you looking to insure it? Talk to you soon!!
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ocguns,
You're a faster picture taker than I am a typist. I'm old you know. I'll wait a bit to see if you post some better side shots. While you have the Grips off could you take a couple of the Left & Right Inside Grip Frame & Face of the Cylinder where the Cartridges go in.
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You're a faster picture taker than I am a typist. I'm old you know. I'll wait a bit to see if you post some better side shots. While you have the Grips off could you take a couple of the Left & Right Inside Grip Frame & Face of the Cylinder where the Cartridges go in.
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While you have those grips off, wipe everything down with some oil to stop the rust and protect. Welcome to the Forum, I am waiting to hear about the history of this. Was it a family heirloom passed down? Or, something a relative took in lieu of payment for some work done.
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Here are some more closeup. It's from a Great Uncle. I can find out how long he had it. I'm planning to sell it, as I suppose there are some people who will get more joy from it than me. I have other collectible guns that I can't part with.
Here are some more closeup. It's from a Great Uncle. I can find out how long he had it. I'm planning to sell it, as I suppose there are some people who will get more joy from it than me. I have other collectible guns that I can't part with.
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ocguns,
I see a "W" stamped on the Cyl. Face do you see any other letters? Possibly an "E" or "C"? These Letters will also be stamped on a Small Flat Pad on the Underside of the Barrel just ahead of the Barrel Pivot & also some Letters should be stamped into the Frame directly under the Cylinder. Also on the Underside of the Barrel Catch. Just see what Letters you can find & I'll figure out if they're correct. I see no reason,so far,that they shouldn't. Everything else seems to be checking out just fine with the exception of the Cartouches being worn away which is not uncommon on a Revolver that spent most of it's life in it's Service Holster!! They didn't find a Holster lying around anywhere did they?? Also like "H Richard" mentioned this needs a real good oil rubdown just about everywhere I can see. It won't necessarily do much with it's pre-existing condition,but it will stop it from spreading!!
I'm getting pretty interested in it's history background myself now as this came from a direct desendant of your family!! Does the G in TRG have a direct connection to your family name? I mention it because the first three letters of your membership name are "ocg".
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I see a "W" stamped on the Cyl. Face do you see any other letters? Possibly an "E" or "C"? These Letters will also be stamped on a Small Flat Pad on the Underside of the Barrel just ahead of the Barrel Pivot & also some Letters should be stamped into the Frame directly under the Cylinder. Also on the Underside of the Barrel Catch. Just see what Letters you can find & I'll figure out if they're correct. I see no reason,so far,that they shouldn't. Everything else seems to be checking out just fine with the exception of the Cartouches being worn away which is not uncommon on a Revolver that spent most of it's life in it's Service Holster!! They didn't find a Holster lying around anywhere did they?? Also like "H Richard" mentioned this needs a real good oil rubdown just about everywhere I can see. It won't necessarily do much with it's pre-existing condition,but it will stop it from spreading!!
I'm getting pretty interested in it's history background myself now as this came from a direct desendant of your family!! Does the G in TRG have a direct connection to your family name? I mention it because the first three letters of your membership name are "ocg".
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The serial number is right next to the "W" on the Cyl. face. I can't find any other letters on it. On the underside of the barrel, just ahead of the barrel pivot on the small flat pad, there's a W and a P.
The G is the first letter of my last name also (and the family name from the relative that had it).
The G is the first letter of my last name also (and the family name from the relative that had it).
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ocguns,
All the Letters you have found so far are legit!! I take it that the Serial Number on the Cylinder matches as well. Are you sure you don't see a Letter on the Frame Cutout under the Cylinder?? I hate to ask,but do you think you could post a photo of that area also??
I also hope you can find some more family background relating to your Revolver. By the way,what state are you from?? Is it in the Mid or Southwest Area by chance? See ya' in a bit!!
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All the Letters you have found so far are legit!! I take it that the Serial Number on the Cylinder matches as well. Are you sure you don't see a Letter on the Frame Cutout under the Cylinder?? I hate to ask,but do you think you could post a photo of that area also??
I also hope you can find some more family background relating to your Revolver. By the way,what state are you from?? Is it in the Mid or Southwest Area by chance? See ya' in a bit!!
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Frame Cutout under the Cylinder has a W also
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Thanks a ton for the interest and help. There's a W on the Frame Cutout under the Cylinder as well. Pictures attached. Yes the serial number on the cylinder matches. I'm in southern California.
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Thanks a ton for the interest and help. There's a W on the Frame Cutout under the Cylinder as well. Pictures attached. Yes the serial number on the cylinder matches. I'm in southern California.
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Getting in on this thread a little late, but just found it. All I can say is, if you would dispose of a Schofield in preference to other collectible guns you have, they must really be something. I suggest you take your time. The Schofield has amazing historical significance and family provenance would make it even more rewarding as a collector find. I add my welcome to the others.
