Help Identifing 2 Handguns

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If anyone can help identify when these 2 handguns were made and the model number I would appreciate it. Also if you know the possible value that would be nice.

The first is a .38 Special pat dates start at Mar 27 94 and end with Sept 14 09. Serial # 1614XX

The second is a .32 Nickel plated Pat dates start Mar 27 94 and end with Sept 14 08 Serial # 2405XX

Any insights into these two oldies would be great.
Thanks
Tim
 

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Welcome! The first is a .38 Military & Police model 1905 on the K or medium frame, and the second a .32 Hand Ejector model 1903. They are both early 20th century guns that preceded model numbers, but after 1957 they would have been the model 10 and 30. Others who have access to the SN data can be more specific regarding ship dates, and values (hard to see photos on a smart phone :( ). Hope this is helpful.
 
thanks for the information Alan, I hope someone else has an idea of the value, the Pearl Handles on the .32 show no signs of cracks.
 
Got on my big computer and monitor. The blue gun dates to the early 1910 decade, and the nickel one perhaps early-mid of the same decade. (Were they owned or purchased by the same person?) The walnut stocks are from a later K frame, and the mother-of-pearl ones are nice but probably not factory. If you remove the MOP stocks carefully and you see the SN penciled on the inside that is proof they are factory original.

If the guns look as good finish-wise on both sides and are mechanically sound, I would guess about $400 for the .38 and $250 for the .32, but the latter higher if the stocks are original.
 
Alan I posted a few more pictures of these guns, they were bought by the same owner at the same time, I took the MOP grips off and there are no markings however they are very thick. I read in another post that there was a certain time period where these may not have been marked, do you know anything about that? The MOP grips even if not original are in perfect condition, the weapon itself is in good shape, tight chamber small amount of rust, this one was rarely fired. The .38 has a small nick in the right side grip bottom other than that it also is in good shape (relatively speaking). If you have any additional insights into these my thanks in advance, if you know anybody that might be able to ID the production date from the serial numbers that would be very helpful also. Thanks again for your knowledge.
 
Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson by Jim Supica and Richard Nahas has serial numbers. In the early guns they do them by blocks so you would be off by about a year either way. A letter is $50 per gun and takes about two months to recieve. The time delay from S&W is because Roy Jinks is busy finding guns for David Carroll. Just joking. If you don't want to spend the bucks for a letter E-mail me the numbers and I can get close to the years of mfg. The first three or four digits followed by xxx so I know how many numbers are in the serial #.
Captain Beyond
 
Sorry I saw you had the numbers posted. Here are the approximate years for each gun. The 1905 38spl. is approx. 1909. The 32 S&W long is a Fifth Change HE approx mfg date 1916. These are guesstimates from blocks. The 38 block was 1909-1915 starting with 146900 ending with 241703 making 1614xx fall in 1909. Total in that block 94,803.
The 32 HE block 1910-1917 started with 102501 and ended with263000 making it fall near the end of the 5th change run in 1916. Total in that block 160499. Hope this can help you or maybe stay confused but enjoy the Smiths. They are history in your hands.
Captain Beyond
 
Thankyou Captain Beyond for the information. It at least puts the age of these weapons very close to their build date.
 
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