Help me find a revolver please with this criteria...

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I'm going to Wyoming to go hiking. Nothing overnight but some back country hikes. Admittedly and unfortunately I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to revolvers, all I've ever been trained on and own is semi auto pistols

Here's what I'm trying to find if possible...

357
Something I can conceal somewhat comfortably
6 shots
Has some heft to it, not interested in a hand cannon with huge recoil
$500-600 range

Any suggestions where to start?
 
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M66 or M19, M27, 686 or 586 all have some heft. If they start with a 6 they are stainless. M66 and M19 are the lightest will handle 357 but are more suited for shooting 38 Special the 28 and 586 or 686 will handle anything you can fit in the cylinder. All can be found used in your price range.
All can be found in 2, 4, 6, inch barrels give or take a 1/2 inch.

Out of all of them I would go with a 66 with a 4 inch barrel good compromise between power, weight and accuracy.
Hope this helps!
 
Budget, availability (time to find and practice) might make any SW a difficulty. Is a holster included in your budget? Since you aren't looking for a collector, you might look at some of the other major manufactures offerings that new with a decent holster are well in your budget. I can think of a few nice 3-4" .357s that would work. I'm partial to fixed sights but that's just a personal thing. Look at used guns for bargains but make sure they are in good working order (check for push off on older SWs). You might get lucky and find a good used S&W in your price range (depends a lot on where you live, wouldn't find one in my neighborhood). Also check with friends. Some of my best deals have come from bartering with friends.

10mm will do about anything a 357 will... Not sure why you want a revolver if you're trained and familiar with autos. I like revolvers and have used them enough to be handy with them. If I was handy with a semi, I'd sure consider that venue too.
 
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Personally, I think a good stainless steel K-frame, like a 65 or 66, would suit your needs, but availability and cost might be an issue. L-frames, like the 686 or 686+ that others have recommended, are other good options. A little bigger and heavier than the K-frames, but with a good belt and holster they're not too bad to carry (full disclosure: my only experience carrying a 686 was while working as an armed guard in a duty belt and holster, anywhere from 8-16 hours/day, most of that time on my feet). I don't know offhand if any of these options fit your budget range, though.

If you're ok with a a non-S&W gun, a Ruger GP100 might be more widely available and I'm pretty you sure you could find one in your price range.

As 1-1917 said, does your budget include associated gear, like grips, holsters, speedloaders/strips, ammo, etc.?

Is there any particular reason why one of your current semi-autos doesn't meet your needs? While I think every handgun owner should have a good DA revolver, I think you might be better served using a gun you're already familiar with than try to get used to a new gun, depending on how much time you have before your trip.
 
The hard part is staying in your budget, unless you find a used revolver in this category.

A .357 revolver weighing 35 oz empty has enough mass to tame recoil of even the wildest SD ammunition. This pretty much says "L-frame" or larger. A 686 with a 2.5" to 3" barrel fits the weight criteria, yet is easy to conceal. The "+" version gives you 7 shots in the same size cylinder that holds 6 rounds.

Harder to find would be a 686 "Mountain Gun," which has a 4" tapered barrel (aka "pencil barrel"), weighing in at 35 oz. It is about as large as will fit in an IWB holster, hence easily concealable.

There is a new model 66 K-frame, which holds 6 rounds in a slim package. Originally only with a 4-1/8" barrel (to meet Canadian requirements), it how is available with a 2-1/2" barrel. A K-frame is much slimmer than the more common L-frame. The new 66 is also outside your budget.

I chuckle about someone recommending a model 28 "Highway Patrolman" revolver. It is a huge revolver, N-frame, with a heavy walled 6 round cylinder. Unless you wear a glove size L, you're probably more comfortable with SA shooting. However it won't break your budget (discontinued, used-only), nor your hand shooting heavy loads. With a 4" barrel, it comes in at 42 oz or so.

There is a J-frame model 60, which holds 6 rounds of .35 7 and might even fit on your pocket (2" bbl anyway). It should not be fired around children - not the noise (which is ample), but your expletives once the grip is debossed in the palm of your shooting hand.
 
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I would suggest a seven shot 686 with a barrel length between 2-1/2 inches and 4 inches. Go with the longest barrel you can conceal, it will increase the muzzle energy while also increasing the controlability and accuracy. Hollow points are not best for defence against animals so load it up with some heavy hard-cast bullets like Buffalo Bore 180 gr. 357. Be aware that .357 is probably of marginal effectiveness against a grizz. I prefer a .44 magnum for bear country, along with a canister of bear spray and a healthy dose of caution.

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I think your budget may be a little light for some of the suggestions, especially anything​ with a 3" barrel. My feeling is that the difference between a 3" and 4" is no big deal. A 4" 13-2 would fit your budget easily. You'd get a high quality pinned and recessed gun at the lower end of your cost criteria. I paid $400 for mine last year. Without your price consideration, my choice would be my 2 1/2" 66-1, hands down. Good luck.
 
Good luck on your HUNT for the perfect gun. 1 size, is not best for all. Based on what you say, a 4" 586, or 686 would be good options. If you want a little lighter, a 4" 13, or 65 might do you well. A gun show may be a good thing for you to attend. There you may be able to handle some for feel. Bob
 
I think your budget may be a little light for some of the suggestions, especially anything​ with a 3" barrel. My feeling is that the difference between a 3" and 4" is no big deal. A 4" 13-2 would fit your budget easily. You'd get a high quality pinned and recessed gun at the lower end of your cost criteria. I paid $400 for mine last year. Without your price consideration, my choice would be my 2 1/2" 66-1, hands down. Good luck.

With enough looking, it can be done. I got my nib 686+ 3" for $552 out the door, and S&W has a $30 military rebate on top of that. It was a local purchase as well. Too many stores around want to sell volume of fantastic plastic, and not so much of the firearms I desire (revolvers and 1911s). I much prefer my Smiths over my GP100, in fact, there is no comparison. I won't handload to nuclear levels, so he proposed strength advantage of the Ruger, say over my 627 or 686 is a non factor. Good luck to the OP in your search. There is always a good reason for a new addition to your arsenal.
 
Fantastic info everyone I really appreciate it.

We're hiking a few spots TBD for a couple weeks but I know we're spending a week at Yellowstone.

I was thinking about going 10mm but there's none that I really like. I've tried just about all available to me.

My $500-600 budget is for the gun only. I plan on buying used and I have about $200 set aside for holster,clips or strips...etc.

So thanks again, this is great info.
 
A week hiking in The Park offers plenty of opportunity for encounters with things even a 6-shooter might not help you with. But probabilities suggest you likely won't have one. If memory serves more "stupid" human acts result in death by bison than griz or the big bad wolf.

I'm going to suggest a used Model 640-1. It carries five .357s. I'm not thoroughly convinced one more round would be all that much help. With the right grips/stocks the recoil isn't brutal, and the weight -- about a pound and a half, loaded -- isn't overburdening.

One guy's thought.

Enjoy your trip.

Bob
 
for your wants/criteria... look at well used but still in exc. condition mechanically:

1) S&W model 586 or 686 with a 4" or 3" barrel. I'm a traditionalist & prefer the 6 round version..

2) S&W mod 57 or 58, 4" barrel . the .41 mag with Hogue grips or Pach. grippers is a delight to shoot even with the stiffest hand loads.

3) S&W model 29 4" barrel... in .44.mag. with Pach. grippers. But carry mid level .44specials in her... I use this as a CCW carry gun with those loads. Contrary to one opinion above, I do not have large hands & find it very easy to control & use.

If you already have a good 9mm or 10mm semi auto that you are proficient with, choosing good ammo to use in them can make them viable options too. Speer Gold Dots are exc./super & Buffalo Bore Bullets makes & sells some ammo that uses hard cast bullets, loaded hot..

That Buffalo Bore 9mm Para ammo was just used by a Alaskan fishing guide to kill a grizzly that was attacking the couple he was guiding. This was written up in the American Rifleman and/or Hunter mags & I believe Buffalo Bore Bullets has the letter on their site too.

I advise you to carry the largest caliber pistol, with the best defensive ammo that you are very proficient with/ & accurate with on fast repeat shots on 25 foot to 5 foot ranges.

If you can only master a S&W mod 586/686 in .357 mag with stiffly loaded defensive ammo.. it is a far better choice than to carry a .44 mag or warmly loaded 10mm semi-auto that you are only at best fair with on fast repeat shots & accuracy.

I urge you to choose a 5" barrel or less, my preferences are 5", 4", or 3", as bringing a 6" barrel or more into play quickly/easily, will be harder.
 
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I sometimes get to play the contrarian...:)

If you are much more familiar with semi-auto pistols, in your situation I would probably opt for a full-size .40 S & W with warmer loads. You will probably be close to 10 mm Auto power levels and can keep different (10-12 round) magazines loaded for personal and wildlife purposes. If you find a .357 revolver and have time to practice and train with it will full loads, that is a good reason to get a new gun too! Hope this is helpful.
 
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Fantastic info everyone I really appreciate it.

We're hiking a few spots TBD for a couple weeks but I know we're spending a week at Yellowstone.

I was thinking about going 10mm but there's none that I really like. I've tried just about all available to me.

My $500-600 budget is for the gun only. I plan on buying used and I have about $200 set aside for holster,clips or strips...etc.

So thanks again, this is great info.

10mm ammo tends to be pricey. Can you always find it? (I don't have 1) Bob
 
Sounds like you have thought this out and know exactly what you are looking for. Far be it from me to try to change your mind on any aspect of what you seek.

Your criteria pretty much rule out the J-frames and the SP101 - they are all 5-shot. Also, while nothing in 357 is really a "hand cannon" the smaller 5-shot guns make magnum rounds feel more like a hand cannon because of their reduced weight.

The S&W models 586, 686, 13, 19, 65, 66 all meet your requirements. I tend to agree that the 3" models would best meet your concealment criteria, and are a little better for easy handling from a holster, though they tend to be at the upper end of your stated budget or even slightly higher. BUT, good deals can be found. 4" models are slightly harder to conceal, but would work with the right holster.

The 586 and 686 "plus" models even give you seven rounds - exceeding your stated requirement of at least 6. But again, they tend to be a little higher in price than the 6 round versions.

As others have mentioned the models beginning with a 6 are all stainless steel, which is good for corrosion resistance for a gun that will be carried in the field.

For my money, and to meet all your criteria in spades, the 3" model 13 or 65 seem to rise to the top of the list. They are 6 shot, K-frames so they handle the recoil of the 357 just fine. They have fixed sights and 3" barrel which makes them better for concealed carry - and presentation from a concealed holster. The 3 inch barrel doesn't compromise velocity nearly like a snubby would, and gives adequate sight radius for accuracy.

The only problem with the 13 is that it is scarce, and the other benefit of the 65 is that it is stainless. So, all things considered I would recommend the model 65 with a 3" barrel. Of course I must admit to being a bit biased. The one in my avatar is my favorite revolver. ;)
 
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When did S&W come out with a J frame 6 shot?

Please tell me where to find this, because I am in need of one ASAP!

This is why I check in here often, always on the cutting edge of S&W news! ;) :D

My bad. The 60 holds 5 rounds. At 21 oz, the recoil would be painful though. A 30 oz SIG is easy, but has a slide to cushion the blow. I don't like shooting any revolver that light.

I have no qualms about SD firearms with fixed sights, especially on pistols. They're okay on Smith revolvers, but so are the grooved receivers like the 65. A few years ago, used 10's were crowding the shelves, probably LEO surplus. The price was right, <$500, but they just didn't scratch any itch I had at the time.
 
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I know wrong forum for this "other" suggestion, but to stay in your budget you could look for a used Ruger Security Six. Same size as K frame Smiths, bull strong, and usually a bit less expensive too. These guns in a 4" meet your criteria. The short 2.5" conceals easier and are a bit harder to come by, but they are out there.

Dan
 
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