Help please with these two perfect older S&W's ??? WITH PICTURES !!!

[shooboy]

Hi All, I could most definitely use some help with these two S&W's acquired today. They are both in just about perfect, 100% condition. If someone can identify these for me and maybe give me an idea on their birthdates and possible value I would greatly appreciate it. I'm usually in the Lounge or 1945-Present sections, but I love older Smiths just like the next guy.
This first one I belive is a M&P 1905, I'm thinkin' maybe 4th change. 6" barrel and a serial number of 813328. It's a five screw Model. Here's the pictures of this one:

This next one has me stumped. 4" barrel, 5-shot in 38 S&W caliber. Barrel marked "Regulation Police". Also a 5 screw, the serial number is 29234. Is this an I-Frame or a J-Frame ??? Here's this little guy:

Thanks in advance for any light you can shine on these for me. I have never personally seen older S&W's in this kind of shape. Kinda like taking a trip back in time. Take care, Shoo

 

[shooboy]

Hi All, I could most definitely use some help with these two S&W's acquired today. They are both in just about perfect, 100% condition. If someone can identify these for me and maybe give me an idea on their birthdates and possible value I would greatly appreciate it. I'm usually in the Lounge or 1945-Present sections, but I love older Smiths just like the next guy.
This first one I belive is a M&P 1905, I'm thinkin' maybe 4th change. 6" barrel and a serial number of 813328. It's a five screw Model. Here's the pictures of this one:

This next one has me stumped. 4" barrel, 5-shot in 38 S&W caliber. Barrel marked "Regulation Police". Also a 5 screw, the serial number is 29234. Is this an I-Frame or a J-Frame ??? Here's this little guy:

Thanks in advance for any light you can shine on these for me. I have never personally seen older S&W's in this kind of shape. Kinda like taking a trip back in time. Take care, Shoo

 

[MSgt G]

Yes, the old days were good days, weren't they!

Beautiful guns! The bottom is an I Frame; I have one simular. I'm sure others here will answer all your questions very soon.

 

[shooboy]

Thanks Master Sargeant. Semper Fi, Shoo

 

[arfmel]

very nice guns Randy. You know what to do when you tire of them...

 

[mikepriwer]

The K-frame is about 1940, the I-frame is about 1925 or so.

I'd guess their value is about what you paid for them. How much was that ?

Later, Mike Priwer

 

[shooboy]

Thanks for the offer arfmel, but don't you already own enough of my old guns ??? I think you already know how much I miss that Model 25.
Hi Mike Priwer, Thanks for the info. Let's just say the guy wanted $300-$400 for both of them !!! But, alas, couldn't buy his Grandpa's old S&W's for that. Paid $800 for both. Thinks me made out okay, Shoo

 

[j38]

Shoo, You certainly showed up in the pre-'45 section with style! Very nice catch...2 real beauties. I hope we'll see more. Regards, Jerry

 

[mikepriwer]

S

If you paid $800 for both, thats about $400 for each. I think that is all
they are worth, but they are worth that much. They are both very nice.

I was guessing, to myself, that the K-frame is about $350, roughly. The
I-frame maybe $400, but these are only rough guesses. The thing about both
of these is that the factory made a lot of them, so scarcity is not one of
their attributes. They have the condition, and that helps set their value.

You might want to get letters on them, although I would guess, and its just
a guess, that they were shipped to some store. Someone bought them, and
forgot about them !

Later, Mike Priwer

 

[ordnanceguy]

Shoo:

Both are very nice pieces. You were smart to grab them when you could.

Is the 6" a .38 Special or .38 S&W? Does it have a lanyard ring?

Regards,
Charlie Flick
S&WCA #729
NRA Life

 

[mikepriwer]

Charlie

Looks like 38 S&W, and it also looks like a hole in the butt .

Later, Mike Priwer

 

[Tijeras_Slim]

Shooboy,

Nice guns. Sometimes the best deal is just getting the opportunity to buy a clean pre-war. Around here, that would be a good price.

With that lanyard hole and SN the top gun might be a K-200 or British Service Pistol as they were called. A sort of proto-commercial pre-victory we sent over there in the very early 40's.

 

[shooboy]

Thanks again for the nice comments guys. I did forget to mention that the K-Frame is in .38 Special, not .38 S&W. And yes, it does have a hole in the butt !!! Shoo

 

[geoff40]

Shoo, if you ever decide to sell the K frame, let me know.

 

[shooboy]

Thanks geoff40, Shoo