Here's a hazard to the a/d that we hadn't considered

[okiegtrider]

I'm going to try and continue to avoid unsafe handling, ADs, and EVs.

 

[hardluk1]

I 69 now with 63 years of shooting with 57 years of hunting and 37 years of CC all with out a single unwanted discharge of a firearm . Then there's the fact that I will never own any EV or even care to ride in one so I feel rather safe .

 

[Buford57]

Agreed. Now I see an article outlining plans to put the batteries in the doors of EVs. Then imagine a bullet through said doors and not necessarily the car owner's bullet. These designers are not rocket scientists, even a humble car collision could pierce one or more batteries mounted there.

Oh, that'll play well in Chicago.

 

[Buford57]

Putting parts in impossible to access locations started long before EVs. It took me almost a day to remove the alternator from my Ford Escape and most of another to install the replacement, which lasted less than 500 miles.

Lithium ion battery fires are just like any other metal fire. They burn extremely hot, light an old Volkswagen block on fire sometime. Be sure to have your welding hood on when you look at it.

I save used anodes from heat exchangers. Toss one in a camp fire and once it is glowing in the coals dump a bit of water on it and hey its daylight in camp. Powdered aluminum will also burn white hot. Iron also burns very hot. Take some steel wool and stick the terminals of a 9 volt battery against it. It is just real hard to oxygenate serious hunks of iron enough to burn it. Rust and powdered iron however burns white hot. A mixture of 3 parts powdered iron and 1 part powdered aluminum by mass makes a thermite.

Most metals burn, they just take a bit to light them up enough make them self sustaining fires, one that is accomplished Katy bar the doors

My Dad helped fight a magnesium fire at the original Bear Archery plant. His part was disconnecting and removing as many of the machines (some of which he had built) as possible before the whole building melted. Said he hadn't been that scared since Korea. I saw the aftermath. Told him I'd take my chances with gunfire and high speed pursuits.

 

[sigp220.45]

If I live long enough to buy another car, it’ll be an EV. I will endeavor not to shoot it.

 

[6string]

Maybe I’m stating the obvious, but shouldn’t the most important consideration be to avoid having an accidental discharge to begin with?

 

[CH4]

I didn’t think folks who own EVs would own guns too. Seems like a
non sequitur, but I see what you’re saying.

 

[steelslaver]

I didn’t think folks who own EVs would own guns too. Seems like a
non sequitur, but I see what you’re saying.

I do not get that logic. There is absolutely nothing wrong with electric drive. While it is wrong to believe they are eco friendly at this point, both in production and charging, electric drive is superior to internal combustion in may ways. 100% torque at 0 rpm, ability to use dynamic braking to put power back into the system instead of wasting it burning it off as friction. No drive line or transmission loss. Notice that many of the worlds largest machines use electric drive. Trains went to electric drive a long time ago and many ships including every nuke sub (and conventional) and aircraft carriers also use it as well as many rotary drilling rigs. The giant drag lines that strip mine coal and the monster unit rig haul trucks that have capacities from 50-400 TONS all use electric drive.

There are problems with the batteries, our generation capability and distribution. Those will not last forever. My grandfather who was born in 1899, told me he laughed at the first cars he ever saw, but ended up driving a Plymouth. It may take another 50 years but it will happen

 

[CH4]

I do not get that logic. There is absolutely nothing wrong with electric drive. While it is wrong to believe they are eco friendly at this point, both in production and charging, electric drive is superior to internal combustion in may ways. 100% torque at 0 rpm, ability to use dynamic braking to put power back into the system instead of wasting it burning it off as friction. No drive line or transmission loss. Notice that many of the worlds largest machines use electric drive. Trains went to electric drive a long time ago and many ships including every nuke sub (and conventional) and aircraft carriers also use it as well as many rotary drilling rigs. The giant drag lines that strip mine coal and the monster unit rig haul trucks that have capacities from 50-400 TONS all use electric drive.

There are problems with the batteries, our generation capability and distribution. Those will not last forever. My grandfather who was born in 1899, told me he laughed at the first cars he ever saw, but ended up driving a Plymouth. It may take another 50 years but it will happen

Just poking fun at the woke. Electric drive is very efficient, that's why you see them in locomotives, ships, earthmovers and the like.

 

[Onomea]

When my Buddy Carl in Kokomo touched off that Black Widow Luger-
It was into the floor of his living room.
Uncomfortably close to my feet and his feet.
Also passing on EVs.

So, how big was that rat, and did he clean it up himself or did he make his wife do it?