How Many AR15's do you really need but love my newSporter II

[marathonrunner]

I own a Colt LE6940 and not sure if one could call that a "TIER1" rifle, but I don't consider the Colt as good as a Daniel Defense or Noveske. Nevertheless, I did not want to turn this into a plinking gun after spending $2400 prior to the big scare.

I then bought a Windham Weaponry SRC HB 5.56 and after replacing the ugly rear stock with a top Tier Magpul, installing a Gissile SSA trigger, a Pro Line Super Slim 15" rail, I now don't want to shoot this either.

So then I was contemplating between the MP Sporter II, the Windham Carbon SRC 5.56, or the Springfield Saint. After doing much reearch, found that the Sporter II is well loved by many and the Carbon Fiber SRC Windham has gotten great reviews, I am not so sure I would trust Carbon Fiber.

Anyway I haven't taken delivery of my Sporter but sure once I get it, i will truly enjoy shooting the **** out of it and not have to worry about ruining it.

 

[Racer X]

I have found that at the rate they are being born, it is up to each and every one of us to give loving homes to as many as we can safely house and take care of. They do need playtime as well.

 

[Flash_80]

I've got a Sig M400 that I bought during the scare, but paid standard price for it. Probably only bought it because it became kind of a game to try and buy one for standard price during that time, but I bought the thing nonetheless. But last week I bought that Sport II on a whim, likely because $500 was just too low to pass up. I added a BCM KMR rail to it this weekend immediately, halfway sighted in from 20yds, and then noticed I was missing gongs at 100yds. Today I put out a large cardboard with an 8" Dirty bird target on it to make sure the rail was on straight and that I didn't have anything offcenter from distance after sighting for up close (figured I was shooting high, but couldn't tell without a test). Either way, the bullet rise was the reason I was missing from 100yds. The one thing I did come away with was that there is nothing wrong with the barrel. Using just the iron sights (plastic I guess really), with a 6 o'clock hold, I'm basically aiming under a black 8" circle at that range. But after moving sights a few times after groups of 3, I sent about 6-7 downrange and 4 of those you could cover with a nickel. I guess I had a steady hold at that time, but it tells me that the gun is going to be accurate. Eventually I'll throw a spare scope on it to see how much. That group today was just luck, as the sights will cover a basketball at that range, but it was promising for a rifle that cost me $525 after shipping and transfer. And comforting to know that I have the rail on straight.

 

[5point5sixGUY]

How many do you need? .... that's highly debatable.

An AR with a 1x - 4x, 6x or 8x scope and a white light for general purpose is all that's really needed. You can defend your home with it, hunt with it, plink with it, compete with it and you can shoot up close and far away. Once you get into collecting AR's your gonna want a few specific brand name rifles and you'll probably want to build at least one yourself. Then you're gonna want rifles setup for particular needs like CQB or long range precision, your gonna want some to have front sight blocks and want some to be free floated. You'll probably want at least one rifle with each of the different length gas systems, different barrel lengths, at least one rifle with a fixed stock, an SBR and or a pistol and you'll probably want barrels with different twist rates and you might want rifles in different calibers.

 

[marathonrunner]

How many do you need? .... that's highly debatable.

An AR with a 1x - 4x, 6x or 8x scope and a white light for general purpose is all that's really needed. You can defend your home with it, hunt with it, plink with it, compete with it and you can shoot up close and far away. Once you get into collecting AR's your gonna want a few specific brand name rifles and you'll probably want to build at least one yourself. Then you're gonna want rifles setup for particular needs like CQB or long range precision, your gonna want some to have front sight blocks and want some to be free floated. You'll probably want at least one rifle with each of the different length gas systems, different barrel lengths, at least one rifle with a fixed stock, an SBR and or a pistol and you'll probably want barrels with different twist rates and you might want rifles in different calibers.

hmmm.... well for long range I would not consider an AR15. I have a bolt action for that. I also have a cheapee Ruger American 5.56 with a Timmney Trigger that is fun just to target shoot

 

[5point5sixGUY]

I was just making a point that needing a rifle and wanting multiple rifles are two totally different things...

 

[cyphertext]

Anyway I haven't taken delivery of my Sporter but sure once I get it, i will truly enjoy shooting the **** out of it and not have to worry about ruining it.

I wouldn't worry about ruining any AR by shooting it. Barrels are wear items and easy to replace if you do happen to shoot one out. Why spend so much money to make the rifle just the way you want it and then not shoot it?

 

[Brian in Oregon]

Need? Or want?

I can think of plenty of needs. And even more wants.

 

[Kadonny]

I wouldn't worry about ruining any AR by shooting it. Barrels are wear items and easy to replace if you do happen to shoot one out. Why spend so much money to make the rifle just the way you want it and then not shoot it?

I only wish I could get out and shoot enough to wear out a barrel.........not to mention afford the ammo to do it.

 

[marathonrunner]

I wouldn't worry about ruining any AR by shooting it. Barrels are wear items and easy to replace if you do happen to shoot one out. Why spend so much money to make the rifle just the way you want it and then not shoot it?

That is a valid point! I think a lot of folks forget that. I keep thinking when the barrel wears out, time to get new one. But anyway, my latest Sporter II purchase, I am finally done stocking up on these rifles. I just wanted a cheap but reliable plinking rifle and this foots the bill.

 

[AR Owner]

I have 2 M&P 15's
1) upgraded with magpul black furniture and a nikon p223 scope sighted in at 100 for distance shooting, target shooting.
2) upgraded with magpul flat dark earth furniture, a primary arms red dot and a front mounted light for home defense mainly and target fun.

I dont like to own guns that are pretty to look at but afraid to actually go out and shoot it. Whats the point?
Look at my pretty $2,000 AR, I spent 6 months modding it, now I dust it, clean it and put it back in the gun safe.

 

[marathonrunner]

I have 2 M&P 15's
1) upgraded with magpul black furniture and a nikon p233 scope sighted in at 100 for distance shooting, target shooting.
2) upgraded with magpul flat dark earth furniture, a primary arms red dot and a front mounted light for home defense mainly and target fun.

I dont like to own guns that are pretty to look at but afraid to actually go out and shoot it. Whats the point?
Look at my pretty $2,000 AR, I spent 6 months modding it, now I dust it, clean it and put it back in the gun safe.

Ha! You hit it right on the head! I agree the problem with buying the top tier ones are you dont' want to ruin or shoot them. Better to buy something cheap and have fun

 

[cyphertext]

Ha! You hit it right on the head! I agree the problem with buying the top tier ones are you dont' want to ruin or shoot them. Better to buy something cheap and have fun

You are the first person I have ever heard of that has an issue with shooting their top tier AR's. Nothing on an AR to ruin... you wear a part out, you replace it.

I bet you have over $2000 in your car... are you afraid of ruining it by driving it?

 

[Mark S.]

I only wish I could get out and shoot enough to wear out a barrel.........not to mention afford the ammo to do it.

I have 3 AR15s (2 M&P15T and 1 M4gery) and 1 M&P 15-22. I too only hope one day to have enough time and access to shoot the barrel out of one. Ammo is no problem, I've been stacking that for the last few years.

 

[fyimo]

I have 4 AR's with one being a DPMS Sportical, a S&W M&P Sport II, , a PSA Freedom Stainless AR-15 carbine 1/7 twist, and a S&W M&P 15-22. I like the platform and enjoy shooting them at the range. They are all entry level AR's and the PSA Freedom is the most accurate of the 3 AR-15 556/223. They are all shoot under 2 inches at 100 yards which is about what I expected when I bought them. I have no real reason to have 3 but I do and often times I have someone with me at the range and I let them shoot one of them. Mine all have scopes on them and my only mod to them is I put Magpul CTR stocks on two of them and a Magpul MOE stock on one of them.

 

[KSDeputy]

Need has nothing to do with it. My latest is a Colt LE 6940.

 

[BAM-BAM]

As someone else once posted .........our ARs are not full auto so the likelihood of shooting out a barrel is remote!

I've gotten 3 over the years....... a pre 2000 Wyndam Bushmaster (IIRC 1998/25thyear).. and two Smith M&Ps......... that said most of my .223 shooting is with a CZ 527 American or a FS (Fullstock/Mannlicher carbine).

 

[marathonrunner]

You are the first person I have ever heard of that has an issue with shooting their top tier AR's. Nothing on an AR to ruin... you wear a part out, you replace it.

I bet you have over $2000 in your car... are you afraid of ruining it by driving it?

I have paid a lot more for my car but treat it like an appliance. I don't fret over dings or scratches. My guns is a different story

 

[Engineer1911]

I only wish I could get out and shoot enough to wear out a barrel.........not to mention afford the ammo to do it.

Going out west to shoot prairie dogs is a good start. If you did it in the mid-1980's it was easy to do. I shot the rifling out of: Thompson Center Contender in .222 Remington, S&W 1500 in .222 Remington, and a Shilen heavy bull stainless steel barrel on a Remington 700 action in .25-06.

All three guns keyholed bullets at 25 yards. Group size was measured in FEET at 100 yards. When I started shooting prairie dogs all three shot groups under 1/2" at hundred yards. The 25-06 barrel lost its accuracy sometime during the Thirty-Fifth pound of powder shot through it. The load was 52 grains of H414 with a Hornaday 75 grain hollow point. Lock, Stock and Barrel (Valentine, NE) had a sale that four 8# jugs was ~$256 with free shipping and no Haz Mat. all of it was shot through that Remington.

I have two original Bushmaster AR-15 made in Wyndam, ME that are still effective on prairie dogs.

EDIT: A local sport shop offered 5% off if you bought 3 boxes of bullets. I bought 3 boxes every payday (got paid every 2 weeks) all winter long, or 2# of powder for 222 Remington. Either purchase was ~$20. It was my "payday" allowance. I had my reloading equipment and lots of brass. I lived within sight of Federal Cartridge Company. Once fired Federal brass was almost free, about $20 per 500 pieces in almost any caliber at the local guns shows. This is what I call the "Good Old Days" .

 

[shep854]

My Sport II covers my AR 'need'. I'd LIKE to have civ-clones of the various military versions, for the history--but then, I can imagine having examples of the REAL M16/M4 variants.