How much should I ask for my 4 inch heavy barrel model 10?

[oysterer]

the new soft top convertible with quick change cylinder.

Sounds like you had a double maybe even triple charge flush full w powder. Good lesson, never ever shoot other people's reloads and if in doubt disassemble/discrad them.

 

[murphydog]

For sale, revolver with high pressure custom porting and top strap modification. Barrel in excellent condition. Offered at $50 but ask, I might pay you more.

 

[Neal]

in the past I have rescued a frame bent worse then the one in picture - used it for years with no problems -

I don't know if you are joking or not, but the frame is more than bent. If you look at the upper rear frame window, you can see that the frame is split, not just cracked. Also, on the other side, there is a wrinkle in the frame, behind the frame window. It took a great deal of force just to open what is left of the cylinder. That frame is totaled. On the earlier question of the legality of it being a firearm, I consider it not repairable , so no, it is no longer a firearm.

 

[Andy Taylor]

That frame is totaled. On the earlier question of the legality of it being a firearm, I consider it not repairable , so no, it is no longer a firearm.

ATF has pretty strict rules on how to make a firearm, no longer a firearm. IIRC frame must be cut completely though in two specific locations and a certain amount of metal must be removed at those cuts. So, yes, this is still legally a firearm.

 

[zzclancy]

PM sent.

Sarcasm

 

[nbedford]

Much better not to learn things by experience. A couple of years ago I learned that jacketed bullets take a bit more powder than cast. I had been shooting 44 Special cast 240 gr swc's on top of 6.8 grains of Unique. I loaded some 240 gr jhps with the same amount of powder. First two or three were ok, but the next one just did not feel right - not particularly a squib though. Before I proceeded on I looked down the barrel. The lead hollow point portion of the jhp was nestled there flush with the end of the barrel of my GP100 like a ground hog in the entrance of his hole. Last jhp handload I have shot in the GP100.

 

[flagman1776]

Back before the dawn of time, there was a certain .38 wadcutter Bullseye powder load (low power target loading) that was suspected of detonation. To my knowledge it was never determined that it was true but experienced target shooters avoided that specific loading.
This might have been that load.

 

[jimbo728]

That Model 10 is now re designated 10-100
Jim

 

[schutzen-jager]

I don't know if you are joking or not, but the frame is more than bent. If you look at the upper rear frame window, you can see that the frame is split, not just cracked. Also, on the other side, there is a wrinkle in the frame, behind the frame window. It took a great deal of force just to open what is left of the cylinder. That frame is totaled. On the earlier question of the legality of it being a firearm, I consider it not repairable , so no, it is no longer a firearm.

no not joking , but mine was just bent with no cracks or splits -
it would still be a firearm as it sets unless demilled as per BATF specifications by cutting or welding -

 

[Dan Carey]

I'll give you $10.00...IF you can find the hammer...

 

[pantannojack]

Is that a new variation incorporating the M16 type carry handle?

 

[Neal]

I'll give you $10.00...IF you can find the hammer...

I believe I used the hammer and trigger in other guns. Sorry..

 

[Protocall_Design]

I believe that is the rare camelback version carried by nomads in the Middle East desert countries. I suspect a few were even manufactured there.

 

[Doug627]

I would ask $500.00 and say it has the original finish and belonged to Elmer Keith.

 

[Doug627]

It may be one of the prototype revolvers with carry handle for service men in Viet Nam. You know, to keep your finger off the trigger.

 

[flagman1776]

UPDATE on 38 Special "Detonation"

Back before the dawn of time, there was a certain .38 wadcutter Bullseye powder load (low power target loading) that was suspected of detonation. To my knowledge it was never determined that it was true but experienced target shooters avoided that specific loading.
This might have been that load.

UPDATE: I used Google to research the 38 Special Bullseye powder detonation I mentioned above...
Several researchers including then powder manufacturer, H.P.White labs at the behest of the NRA. Researchers were never able to duplicate it. It was found to be linked to an obsolete and discontinued straight line progressive loading machine. The believed cause was a hangup allowing a double or possibly greater powder charge. These loaders were before my time.
I have always been fond of my Dillon 550 which rarely hung up and if a hangup did occure, I could cycle single cases through as appropriate after removing and verifying.

 

[Neal]

UPDATE: I used Google to research the 38 Special Bullseye powder detonation I mentioned above...
Several researchers including then powder manufacturer, H.P.White labs at the behest of the NRA. Researchers were never able to duplicate it. It was found to be linked to an obsolete and discontinued straight line progressive loading machine. The believed cause was a hangup allowing a double or possibly greater powder charge. These loaders were before my time.
I have always been fond of my Dillon 550 which rarely hung up and if a hangup did occure, I could cycle single cases through as appropriate after removing and verifying.

I remember the "detonation theory". It was disturbing to hear, but so many millions of 38 wadcutters had been fired in police revolvers, PPC competitors, and plinkers, it seemed such a low probability that we accepted the risk. The standard load back then was 2.7 grains of Hercules Bullseye with 148 grain wadcutter bullet. Fired a few thousand of them myself. All but one were successful. ha ha Come to think of it, I had my model 10 five inch rebarreled with a Mcgowan barrel, and Aristocrat rib, IIRC. I never shot PPC, but it was so fun to shoot, I had a blast trying to shoot fast double action like Ed McGivern. One of these days I will get it out of the safe and take a couple pics.

 

[Neal]

no not joking , but mine was just bent with no cracks or splits -
it would still be a firearm as it sets unless demilled as per BATF specifications by cutting or welding -

If this is correct, and I have no reason to doubt you, then I will instruct my son that after I am gone he should take it to work and cut it up completely with the plasma cutter.

 

[kraynky]

I've always heard folks referring to a "humpback" 38. Now I know what they look like!

I wouldn't take $500 bucks for it if I had experienced that kaboom and survived. It might even be mounted in a shadow box on display in my gun room.

Thanks for the reminder!

 

[schutzen-jager]

If this is correct, and I have no reason to doubt you, then I will instruct my son that after I am gone he should take it to work and cut it up completely with the plasma cutter.

you can verify it at the ATF website - also see post # 24 - a good machinist + some spare parts could have it working again in a few hours even if it has a crack that needs welding - are you sure that rear is cracked or just gouged from a piece of cylinder ? - hard to tell from picture -