How rare is "scarce" - Model 17-1

[jmace57]

I'm looking at a Model 17-1. I looked in SCSW and it says that the -1 engineering change - thread from right to left on extractor rod- is "(scarce)".

Anyone know HOW scarce? The price is higher than you would normally see a dash-something-else sell for. I'm just curious. I know that I have not seen one before.

Thanks. Jim

 

[22hipower]

Likely very scarce, I need one to fill that dash hole and haven't seen one for sale since I've been looking.

Jeff
SWCA #1457

 

[murphydog]

These were made for about two years, or about the same amount of time (roughly) as the preceding model 17. They are not unicorns like the 28-1 or 29-1 and I have seen several for sale.

Interestingly, I have seen a few that were documented to have shipped in about 1967, or 6+ years after they "should" have been sold. Never say never with S & W.

 

[kennyb]

I'm checking now with a friend who has one

 

[kscharlie]

Jim, all of the "-1" K-frames are somewhat uncommon. The 16-1 supposedly does not even exist. The -1 change was made for two years. The no-dash change was made for two years. Yet the -1s bring a premium. From SCSW, the 14, 15, 17 and 18 models are valued at a 25% - 50% premium. The 19-1 is a 100% premium. Obviously, the amount of premium for any given gun depends largely on condition.

A few years ago, I obtained a very nice 14-1 and paid $750 for it. I think it's worth more. I reckon the 17-1 you are looking at would be worth about whatever you might be willing to pay. They don't show up very often.

Good luck.

Charlie

 

[crsides]

I have had two, sold one. Didn't pay a premium and but I did get maybe a $100- 200 bump over 17-2 similar condition. I have deduced that the -1's were only made for 9-12 months, and no, I don't know how I came up with that number. I followed these for quite a while, and from my increasingly fading memory, the lowest # was K418xxx and the highest was k428xxx. Most were in the k426xxx range, as were both of mine. Perhaps it would be helpful if owners of 17-1's would post the first 3 digits of their serial numbers.

 

[George_in_SD]

They are rather hard to find and are sought after by a few collectors willing to pay a premium for '-1' example.

 

[bdGreen]

Perhaps it would be helpful if owners of 17-1's would post the first 3 digits of their serial numbers.

Mine, K427163 was shipped in May 1962



bdGreen

 

[bullmack]

About 5 years ago I decided to collect a 8 3/8" model 17 in all versions through 17-4. I didn't try to buy them in version order - when I found one I liked I bought it. The 17-1 was very hard to find.

My 8 3/8" Model 17-1 is K426912 and was shipped March 1962.

 

[4-Screw]

I did not think it was difficult to find the 6" I had. I kept it for about a year and then sold it back to the seller that I bought it from.

 

[MrG5122]

I recently purchased Ser# K419088 which shipped in March 1962. 39 days before I was born. It is in outstanding condition. Did I pay a premium? Probably a few hundred more than a comparable no dash or -2, but I'm thrilled to have it.