66Park
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Ok. Well, being an independent myself, thanks for the kind words!
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Ok. Well, being an independent myself, thanks for the kind words!
YogiBear
Absent Comrade
Aloha,
I saw this reply on another gun forum
"Engaged in an informal debate this week with a gun banner type. He didn't like my arguments so he flipped me off and cussed me out. I had to point out that if he really considered me, a gun owner, a potential mass murderer, he wouldn't piss me off. He kinda got pale and shaky and left."
Wonder If I can get away using that?
Pick the right time and place........
I saw this reply on another gun forum
"Engaged in an informal debate this week with a gun banner type. He didn't like my arguments so he flipped me off and cussed me out. I had to point out that if he really considered me, a gun owner, a potential mass murderer, he wouldn't piss me off. He kinda got pale and shaky and left."
Wonder If I can get away using that?
Pick the right time and place........
venomballistics
Member
its a limited range of use tactic ... while it clearly illustrates the foolishness of the anti's actions, its not hard to twist the interpretation into a threat.
it'll work ...
Delivery is critical...
you have to place your bets on who will play the counter card on you.
honestly, its not worth it.
right now, if they don't get it, they never will. The lines are drawn and few remain on the fence.
To be honest, I really don't understand why some people insist in perpetuating the false dichotomy of the two party political system or the "conservative vs. liberal" shibboleth. The fact is when you face the combined persecution of misguided elected officials, the mass media AND the court of public opinion, you need ALL the help you can get.
Focus on what you share in common. Not what sets you apart. The fight for freedom makes for strange bedfellows, but I welcome any ally regardless of what their political, religious or personal beliefs are.
This applies to ALL human rights enshrined within the Bill of Rights, and not just the right to keep and bear arms.
Focus on what you share in common. Not what sets you apart. The fight for freedom makes for strange bedfellows, but I welcome any ally regardless of what their political, religious or personal beliefs are.
This applies to ALL human rights enshrined within the Bill of Rights, and not just the right to keep and bear arms.
venomballistics
Member
now your starting to touch on something I've been thinking about lately.
Constitutional defense and restoration.
not just parts, but the whole thing from the bill of rights down to each precious amendment.
thats the real game objective.
Now ... how do we go about it?
That's a very good question and, sadly, one which I think goes beyond the scope of the original post and perhaps this specific board.
I would have gone home and got into my stash of firecrackers. Gone back by, lit up a 500rd of Black Cats, and dropped them out the window.
But that's just me.
I do like your thinking on this...
If the Op decides to join these morons, his sign needs to read "Protect the children, Support our Constitution".
venomballistics
Member
That's a very good question and, sadly, one which I think goes beyond the scope of the original post and perhaps this specific board.
yeah the kid done wandered off the ranch.... could be a track star
I suppose the general idea of constitutional defense and restoration is deserving of a good bit of thought prior to discussion anyhow.
DigiRebel
Member
I was just gonna say it lights up the "awesome" part of the brain... but I think you worded it better. LOL
DigiRebel
Member
In the end it boils down to the fact that the media and antis NEED to dehumanize their opponent. Their opponents CAN'T be honest hard working citizens who care about their families and their constitutional rights, because those people are people, just like them.
You'll notice that attacks are directed against the NRA, which to hear them talk is a monolithic nonredeemable evil, much like cartoon and comic book super heroes. Its similar to how, when they want to paint a company as evil for something bad happening, its not "Bob the Oil Rig Technician" who's having family problems because he's away from his kids for months at a time, and who just had a family emergency that's been keeping him up nights so he can't sleep and therefore he fell asleep at the wheel. Its "BIG OIL" poisoning the reefs and greedily plundering Nemo the Fish's home for oil!
The NRA is a Captain Planet Villain to be defeated, not a collection of Americans who've banded together to defend a very important right. The old woman who harassed the poor guy from one of the earlier posts did so because she can't tell the difference between the caricature that the media NEEDS the NRA to be, and the poor guy who was just trying to go to work one morning.
Honestly, I think the first step is to fight the image that the NRA is anything other than other good, law-abiding, American Citizens who have slightly different political views than the antis but in MOST other ways are the exact same people.
Its easy to beat up on a faceless organization, its a lot harder for people to demonize Joe, the guy next door, who helped them dig their car out of the snow last week.
venomballistics
Member
It's not nearly hard enough for them to crucify Joe next door.
they don't care that he helped, that he provides a blanket of security, or the truth's he stands for .... the focus is upon the win .. right or wrong.
HereSinceTheLongHunters
Member
Digirebel, I've written the NRA with that exact suggestion. The admin is using the oldest tricks in the book. You have to show the traditional gun owning population for what it really is: your neighbors, co-workers, family, local law enforcement and family military members who the fear-induced population actually trust to keep them safe every day .. with guns. National and personal security pave the way for personal freedom. Whoever coined the phrase: "Gov't by freak-out" this week really hit the nail on the head....
I love how the public has adopted this "gun violence" term that the media and the politicians came up with. When people are stabbed it is never called knife violence (at least in the USA). When a reckless or drunk driver injures or kills someone it is never called car violence or alcohol violence. I have never once seen strangulation or beating deaths referred to as hand violence.
How about someone injured or killed in a fire...fire violence?
The closest we come is domestic violence but even then it describes the relationship between the accused and the victim and says nothing about the nature of the alleged crime.
Somehow only when a gun is used they attribute the problem to the implement and not the person. People don't even realize how they are being manipulated.
You know, if they want to be technical about it, it usually isn't a gun that causes and injury or death, it is the projectile. Maybe soon we will hear about how we need to put an end to bullet violence?
Maybe you should have gone back with a sign that read "Stop the madness...ban hysteria" Or maybe "No more gun laws!"
Actually it was probably best you did not go back.
How about someone injured or killed in a fire...fire violence?
The closest we come is domestic violence but even then it describes the relationship between the accused and the victim and says nothing about the nature of the alleged crime.
Somehow only when a gun is used they attribute the problem to the implement and not the person. People don't even realize how they are being manipulated.
You know, if they want to be technical about it, it usually isn't a gun that causes and injury or death, it is the projectile. Maybe soon we will hear about how we need to put an end to bullet violence?
Maybe you should have gone back with a sign that read "Stop the madness...ban hysteria" Or maybe "No more gun laws!"
Actually it was probably best you did not go back.
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