How's this scope look to you guys?

TheMaineEvent said:
If you're looking for a tacticool reticle, Primary Arms has a 1-6 scope that's been getting rave reviews. It's more than the optic you've been looking at, but I think we're all in agreement that that is overpriced junk from China. It also has a reticle that's inline with what you're looking for.

Primary Arms is a great company and stands behind their products. I have one of their scopes and love it.

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Nice optic. I'd get that if I didn't already have a 1-4.

To correct some misinformation about Amazon. Returns are VERY easy with items that are shipped BY Amazon. You have to watch and be sure that the item isn't sold by an outside vendor. That optic wasn't.
 
I'm old-fashioned and careful with my hard-earned money. If it were me, I'd practice and get proficient with iron sights and save my money for what I really wanted and what would really work. I have done that in the past and all that extra practice has made me a better and more proficient shooter. Then when the money becomes available, you can get what you want for the price of what you want, not for the price of what you didn't want PLUS the price of what you want.

I hate throwing good money after bad.
 
BillyJack2012 said:
I'm with you on that. I have the 1-4 also but would love to have the new 1-6.
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I have a Primary Arms 4-14x44 that's superb, but the OP seems to like reticles that are similar to what ACOGS use. Nothing wrong with that, but traditional scopes probably won't interest him. That's why I posted PA's new 1-6 scope.
 
TheMaineEvent said:
I have a Primary Arms 4-14x44 that's superb, but the OP seems to like reticles that are similar to what ACOGS use. Nothing wrong with that, but traditional scopes probably won't interest him. That's why I posted PA's new 1-6 scope.
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That scope looks good too.

Unless you're shooting bullseye or small game with .223/5.56 I don't understand why one would want a higher powered optic on a SHF gun. The 1-4 or 1-6 is perfect since you can pick up targets close in at 1 power and still get good accuracy for distance at 6 power. Combat accuracy for a .223/5.56 isn't sub MOA groups. We'll not to me anyway.
 
I like it because I can shoot out to 200 yards and see what I'm hitting very well. Plus, while my eyes aren't bad, they're not what they used to be so the extra magnification really helps.

For the money, it offers a lot of value which is a big reason why I bought it. Between it and my Nikon, which is on another rifle, I can be far more accurate than I ever thought I'd be.

Plus, if I had to use the AR with the 4-14 power on it in a real world situation I'm confident I could impose much fear and suffering on the opposing target even if they presented me with a 4 inch target to hit, lol.

I've got another AR with a red dot for anything that gets too close.
 
Sight radius on the fiber optic is about as useful as sights on a Ruger LCP. It has got to be at least a whole 3.5 inches. I have one of these scopes without the fiber optic sights. It's not a bad scope for the rectile point. Very clean view, and nice crosshairs. But not what I thought it would be. I have bad eyes, and the sight radius did me no justice. I will sell it if someone is interested in it. As far as cheap scopes go, it not that bad if you have good eyesight. My son loves it. Just does not do me well.
 
Not to hijack the thread but can anyone offer feedback on the Sig CP1 scope? I purchased my first AR a 15T today and was talked into one of these scopes by the salesman. I figured for a price < $180 it seemed ok. I saw the Sig name and thought it must be decent, but I've read a few reviews by people on other sites who say if it's made in China it must be ****. Any feedback from actual users would be greatly appreciated. Thanks - Chris


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Cwalms said:
Not to hijack the thread but can anyone offer feedback on the Sig CP1 scope? I purchased my first AR a 15T today and was talked into one of these scopes by the salesman. I figured for a price < $180 it seemed ok. I saw the Sig name and thought it must be decent, but I've read a few reviews by people on other sites who say if it's made in China it must be ****. Any feedback from actual users would be greatly appreciated. Thanks - Chris


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Yes. I have one. Mine has a Primary Arms label on it but they are all the same with slight variations and different labels (mine has rails on it and some do not) but its the same Chinese labor camp made dimestore optic.

I've had it mounted on a Sig522 SWAT for about three years or so. PA called it their "Compact 4x" but is more like a 3x -- they all are. Edge to edge clear (what fixed 3x isn't anyway) the reticle is super fine (meaning thin) and similar in design to an ACOG TA01. When illuminated remains sharp. It has the typical dimestore dingy looking glass that you'll find on all illuminated dimestore optics. It's a nice little optic for a .22 and it's a good height for a Sig platform with a lower stock, but is well under the typical AR riser height. While I enjoy this on my .22, I would not put it on an AR. That said, there are a ton of great reviews from guys who mounted it on ARs. $180 is top dollar. They can be found for less. And comparing $180 for this compact scope to $249 for the Burris linked above... the Burris would be the way to go for a compact fixed scope that's relatively easy on the wallet.

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ASTMedic said:
That scope looks good too.

Unless you're shooting bullseye or small game with .223/5.56 I don't understand why one would want a higher powered optic on a SHF gun. The 1-4 or 1-6 is perfect since you can pick up targets close in at 1 power and still get good accuracy for distance at 6 power. Combat accuracy for a .223/5.56 isn't sub MOA groups. We'll not to me anyway.
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You are correct; the goal is MOB. ..............Minute of Bad guy!;)

Not trying to be mean when talking about the money to spend on optics guys. Quite the opposite; I hate- HATE to see a guy who is struggling just to get enough scratch to buy 2 boxes of ammo to take his kids shooting to see the optic fail, the fun ends early, and he has no way to recoup the money sunk in the junk.
I was there, for many years. MANY years. I'm only like 2 paychecks from there most days still.....:rolleyes: And the thing is, there are really good, dependable and tough optics out there for $150ish dollars. And to beat them, you need to leap all the way to $500+ optics. So there is a huge divide where good gear starts, to where it ends. The first step is good glass. The second step is good adjustability. The 3rd step is ruggedness. After these, you get to the greats, not the goods. Great glass. Great adjustability. Great ruggedness/ dependability. Great costs much more, and is not that much better than good. But Good sure beats 'Meh' by a long shot.:)

FWIW, I can not 'afford' spectacular glass like top shelf Zwarovsky or Nightforce. I am happily existing in the Weaver camp, with a couple Simmons, a Nikko Sterling, a Nikon, and a 35 year old Leupold to round things off. The most expensive optic I own is an Eotech.......... It's not the BEST optic I own, but for what it is made to do, it was pretty much the only choice.
 
ChattanoogaPhil said:
Yes. I have one. Mine has a Primary Arms label on it but they are all the same with slight variations and different labels (mine has rails on it and some do not) but its the same Chinese labor camp made dimestore optic.

I've had it mounted on a Sig522 SWAT for about three years or so. PA called it their "Compact 4x" but is more like a 3x -- they all are. Edge to edge clear (what fixed 3x isn't anyway) the reticle is super fine (meaning thin) and similar in design to an ACOG TA01. When illuminated remains sharp. It has the typical dimestore dingy looking glass that you'll find on all illuminated dimestore optics. It's a nice little optic for a .22 and it's a good height for a Sig platform with a lower stock, but is well under the typical AR riser height. While I enjoy this on my .22, I would not put it on an AR. That said, there are a ton of great reviews from guys who mounted it on ARs. $180 is top dollar. They can be found for less. And comparing $180 for this compact scope to $249 for the Burris linked above... the Burris would be the way to go for a compact fixed scope that's relatively easy on the wallet.

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Thanks! I'll look into the Burris. I'm not gonna lie. I'm pretty excited about the new AR and want to set it up decent from the start. The input is much appreciated.


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Cwalms said:
Thanks! I'll look into the Burris. I'm not gonna lie. I'm pretty excited about the new AR and want to set it up decent from the start.
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I think the most important thing is to match up the optic with the type shooting you are going to do. For some guys that means a 1x red dot, for others it might be a magnified optic. As an exaggerated example, I'd rather have a cheap 1x red dot than a Nightforce 15x scope because I have no use for the Nightforce on an AR. When you have it narrowed down, check out the reviews at Midway. Lots of valuable input from those who have bought it, used it, hated it and loved it... on thousands of optics from dimestore to top shelf.
 
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I shoot target pistol and my 22 is a high standard from John Giles if anybody's heard of him. He died a few years back but boy could that guy put a gun together. I shoot it with an old Aimpoint 2000 that, with a bench rest, can still put them all through the same hole at 50 feet. Never shot better guns than Giles made. I have his 1911 and it's the sweetest gun you could ever want. I was never able to get his 38 and ebded up with a Smith Model 52. That is a sweet gun right out of the box.
 
TheMaineEvent said:
I like it because I can shoot out to 200 yards and see what I'm hitting very well. Plus, while my eyes aren't bad, they're not what they used to be so the extra magnification really helps.

For the money, it offers a lot of value which is a big reason why I bought it. Between it and my Nikon, which is on another rifle, I can be far more accurate than I ever thought I'd be.

Plus, if I had to use the AR with the 4-14 power on it in a real world situation I'm confident I could impose much fear and suffering on the opposing target even if they presented me with a 4 inch target to hit, lol.

I've got another AR with a red dot for anything that gets too close.
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If you want to impose fear and suffering get an M14.
 
Trijicon,vortex and leupold.best glass to price value in my opinion.a good mount is just as important.you get what you pay for in optics.
 
Reliability with Chinese scopes is always a crapshoot. They are inexpensive, yes, and you might just get a good one -- I have had a Chinese cheapo on one of my most-used rifles that has given good service now for 5 years; however, that scope's twin, bought at the same time, gave up the ghost after one shooting session. I figure that twice what I paid for them is still a bargain compared to the price of a high-quality scope, so I am happy with it, but I realize that getting one good one out of two was pure luck.
 
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