I broke down and got an Apex rigger

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and bought an Apex trigger from a guy at work that had bought 2 but sold one of his guns before he installed it. Paid $20 so figured I couldnt go wrong.

Installation took about 45 minutes since I took it slow and let me tell you as far as im concerned that trigger beats that factory S&W hinged trigger every day of the week. No more mushy feeling, length of pull seems a lot less and reset it clearly much better. I shot a box of 115 grain late this evening and its much improved, feels better to shoot with that non hinged trigger. Why S&W doesnt put a trigger like this on from the get go is beyond me.

I didnt change my springs because I dont want a 5-6 pound trigger with me EDC but my word im really pleased with this apex trigger. I was a little apprehensive at people saying good things about it but guarantee now im not, would highly recommend it.
 
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I actually like the triggers on the SD9. But, I do plan to get after it this winter and install the Apex spring kit to lighten the pull.
 
Why S&W doesnt put a trigger like this on from the get go is beyond me.

The SD9VE is a pistol meant for first-time or low-income handgun buyers, the kind who likely do not have a lot of training in trigger discipline if any at all. In other words, it's meant to be like a 16-shot revolver. Handgun pros are assumed to be interested in the M&P line instead. Buying an SD9VE and complaining about the trigger is like buying a Ford Fiesta and complaining about the lack of leather seats. That having been said, it's a good thing Apex is around to take care of those who insist on a gun that's cheap AND has a nice trigger.
 
That having been said, it's a good thing Apex is around to take care of those who insist on a gun that's cheap AND has a nice trigger.

Well...if you add up the cost of the usual add-ons for the SDVE pistols: the Apex kits, the extended take down lever, the stainless recoil rod, the Hogue grip sleeve, and the metal rear sight, you might be pretty close to the cost of an M&P 2.0, especially if the reports I'm reading now of people finding them for just over $400. I've done all that to my SDVEs, except for the Apex kits, because I wanted to...not because I had any illusions that I was building an M&P.

Of course, there will be plenty of people who buy the SDVE pistols and leave them stock, as a basic defense weapon, which is what they are intended to be. I think the SDVE pistols are great firearms, especially for the price, but I also think that if you want to build them up into an M&P, rather than just enjoying modifying them in their own right, you'd be better off buying a M&P.

Of course that's my opinion...which with $2 might get you a small soda somewhere.
 
Well...if you add up the cost of the usual add-ons for the SDVE pistols: the Apex kits, the extended take down lever, the stainless recoil rod, the Hogue grip sleeve, and the metal rear sight, you might be pretty close to the cost of an M&P 2.0, especially if the reports I'm reading now of people finding them for just over $400.

I said exactly that myself around here not long ago. While there are things I'd like to do to my SD9VE to make it a better pistol, it would completely defeat the purpose of having bought it because it was so darn cheap.
 
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Even when you buy an M&P, you do not usually get everything you want in a pistol. I bought an M&P, still did a trigger job on it, replaced the sights, polished internals, and I still prefer my SD9. The ergonomics is a big factor for me. Having back straps that I could change helped the M&P but, still did not give that great fit & natural point of aim the SD9 does.
Having said that, I think most of us will change something on a gun no matter how it comes to us. We always think we can improve it. And besides, it’s a lot of fun doing the work yourself.
 
I agree with Outbackman's points. If a person is happy with their pistol right out of the box, then great. But, many of us like to dial in our equipment to suit our wants or needs. I added the APEX spring kit and trigger. Then a Talon sandpaper grip, extra mags, holster. So, now, It's right where I need it to be. Because it was a bargain to begin with, I have a well sorted and reliable pistol that I could return to the stock configuration at anytime for under $430. The bonus is that I did not have to spend a thousand dollars to do so. The last semi auto pistol I had was a Sig Sauer P-229 in .357 Sig. Ordered from the factory it cost over $1100, before I added this and that to it. So, it's all relative. Ask any 1911 guy how many of his pistols are box stock. ;) So, My criteria for a SDP is A) 100 percent reliability. B) Quality components and build. C) A decent Warranty. D) Value in the tool. Using those 4 points the S&W SD9VE scores very well in each category, right out of the box. After the simple but effective mods, it just gets better. Plus, I can afford to shoot it. Side note, nothing replaces competency with your chosen sidearm, so Practice, Practice, PRACTICE! Good Luck and Safe Shooting.
 
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