I can't decide...627 pro series or 627 UDR

[Setarip]

Hello,

I am new here and new to ccw. I have decided that I want my first pistol to be an N frame revolver. I really love the 8 shot .357's. I don't think I'll have any issues concealing an N frame, I am 6'3" and weigh 190 lbs. I also will invest is a quality belt and holster.

So I have got my choice down to the 627 pro series 4", or the 2.6" 627 pc. Which one should I get? I know there are advantages and disadvantages to each of them. The pro series of course is a decent amount cheaper, and the 4" barrel is pretty sweet. What a dilemma to be in.

 

[muddocktor]

If you plan that big old moose as a ccw, I think the short barrel will be the one to go with. I have a 627 Pro with the 4" barrel and I would think it would be pretty hard to conceal, especially with a 4" barrel. I do love my Pro though and it is a fun gun to shoot. But I don't think it would make a good ccw gun.

 

[Neumann]

Neither version is hard to conceal, especially if equipped with round or boot grips (2.6" only). A 4" barrel is a little slower out of the holster if carried IWB or in an high ride OWB, and may poke you in the butt if carried IWB.

I find that the 4" Pro fits nicely in an Alessi shoulder holster designed for a 3" barrel, without poking out to the rear. Otherwise I use an Alessi CQB pancake holster for 4" N frames. I'm equipped for 3" or less for IWB, with a Sparks VM2.

The PRO trigger is very nice. The only difference I detect between the PRO and PC is the presence of a trigger stop and ball-detent cylinder (I have a 629PC 2.6").

 

[dwever]

Either one is a great choice - no bad answer, so my comments are tilted towards my needs not what is best necessarily.

I think the action is a bit smoother on the UDR in general, and is certainly more practical for concealed carry. I use a Galco Combat Master holster (picture 2) or a Galco High Ride Silhouette.

If I could only have one, it would be a tough call, but ultimately the 627 UDR. Since I can have two, the UDR plus a 5" 327 when I don't need to be concealed. Interestingly, the 627 UDR (37.8 oz.) and 327 TRR8 (35.2 oz.) carry about the same, while the 4" 627 takes the weight just past 40 oz. and is not as accurate as the shrouded barrel design of the TRR8 or as fast as the UDR or TRR8.

 

[alphabrace]

Usually barrel length is not as much as an issue carrying conceled, I would be more concerned with the report and my hearing loss with 357, especially out of a short barrel.

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[Setarip]

Hey guys thanks for the replies. Yeah I'm very torn. I really like both, and can only justify one or the other. Do you think the ballistics are drastically different between the 2.6" and 4" barrel?

 

[alphabrace]

Not going to matter to the guy at the end of it..

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[rickjones]

Welcome to the forum! I agree with Dwever 100 percent. The two best choices are the UDR or the Trr8. I have both and the UDR is easy to conceal and the Trr8 is light and concealable under almost any button down shirt or jacket. Superb choices and you won't feel unprotected by any means! Good luck and enjoy the 8 cracker!

 

[dwever]

Hey guys thanks for the replies. Yeah I'm very torn. I really like both, and can only justify one or the other. Do you think the ballistics are drastically different between the 2.6" and 4" barrel?

Difference between the 2.5" and 4" although the UDR is actually 2.625"

Buffalo Bore 38 Special Short Barrel 110 Gr. Barnes TAC-XP HP
1106 fps S&W 4 inch barrel
1010 fps -- S&W Model 66, 2.5 inch barrel

Buffalo Bore 357 Magnum Short Barrel 140 Gr. Barnes TAC-XP HP Low Flash
1246 fps -- S&W MT. Gun, 4 inch
1149 fps -- S&W Mod 66, 2.5 inch

Buffalo Bore Ammunition 357 Magnum 125 Gr. Barnes TAC-XP Hollow Point
1591 fps - S&W Mt. Gun, 4 inch barrel
1448 fps - S&W mod 66, 2.5 inch barrel

Buffalo Bore Ammunition 357 Magnum 125 Grain Jacketed Hollow Point High Velocity
1476 FPS 3 inch S&W J frame Jacketed Hollow Point
1603 FPS 4 inch S&W L frame Mt. Gun Jacketed Hollow Point

The last one is like detonating a small bomb with over 800 ft. lbs. of energy at the muzzle which is really getting in to the low end of .44 Magnum territory exceeding the energy of numerous .44 Magnum loads such as the Winchester 44 Remington Magnum 240 Grain Jacketed Soft Point.

Usually barrel length is not as much as an issue carrying conceled, I would be more concerned with the report and my hearing loss with 357, especially out of a short barrel.

Except that the right .38+P self defense ammo is is probably going to be perfectly adequate; or a lighter loaded .357 Magnum Short Barrel Ammo such as Speer Gold Dot .357 Magnum Short Barrel at 294 ft. lbs. Some .357 Magnum self-defense ammo is overloaded and arguably raises over-penetration issues (except for when there is a burglar behind the refrigerator at your neighbor's house).

Of course we're reminded that the primary determinant of stopping power is bullet placement. A cool, deliberate marksman with a little .32 Walther will beat a petrified, inaccurate person with a .357 Magnum or $1200 customized .45 auto every time.

 

[Setarip]

Thanks again guys. So I know the lockup is different, is there any appreciable difference is strength between them?