I frame identification

[jreidthompson1]

Another auction pickup. (previous auction pickup here https://smith-wessonforum.com/threads/identify-he-model-and-date-of-mfg.713639/#post-141887550). Looking for any information. I used this page as a reference https://unblinkingeye.com/Guns/32HE/32he.html. Appears to have been originally plated (nickel)? and currently has pearl grips (no medallion, so may be non-original). If I'm correlating everything correctly, it appears to be a Second Model .32 Hand Ejector - Model 1903 - Second Change. But with maybe some discrepancies re the information in the page? I'll attach photos in follow on posts. The barrel seems to be a No Change Two-Line Inscription, based on the patent dates listed? serial # 61012 falls in Second Model .32 Hand Ejector - Model 1903 - Second Change range, which leans more toward the early part of the range and the cylinder has the hardened steel inserts, but the rebound slide does have the patent date stamped on it. The big issue with it is that the cylinder will freely spin on the extractor, so while the hand rotates the extractor the cylinder will not rotate with it. When up, the cylinder stop will prevent the cylinder from spinning counter clockwise, but will allow clockwise rotation.

Thanks for any information.

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[desi2358]

Looks a little rough...... Something seems to be stripped or missing altogether. There are supposed to be two pins in the cylinder that go through the holes in the extractor to ensure alignment and, unless my memory is failing, a lug that the extractor shaft rides on in the cylinder as well.

 

[glowe]

That gun would almost qualify as a relic. I would use it as a paperweight or wall hanger and not even shoot it. There is a small slot that runs the length of the extractor rod aligning it with very small tab at the rear of the cylinder. That is what keeps the star in alignment, not the small locator pins. It is almost impossible to replace that tab and would require a new proper era cylinder. Being short, those pins only maintain alignment while the star is seated in the cylinder.

The serial number likely shipped in 1907. The pearl stocks are not factory original since they have no S&W medallion.

 

[jreidthompson1]

That gun would almost qualify as a relic. I would use it as a paperweight or wall hanger and not even shoot it. There is a small slot that runs the length of the extractor rod aligning it with very small tab at the rear of the cylinder. That is what keeps the star in alignment, not the small locator pins. It is almost impossible to replace that tab and would require a new proper era cylinder. Being short, those pins only maintain alignment while the star is seated in the cylinder.

The serial number likely shipped in 1907. The pearl stocks are not factory original since they have no S&W medallion.

Thanks. I was wondering if there was a broken or missing 'key' for that slot.

 

[Muley Gil]

Somebody has worked that hammer over, big time!

 

[45NUTT]

Sell the MOP grips and throw the gun away! Yikes that's been rode HARD and put up dead.