I made some drawings of Victory Models....
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how are you making radius's so precise without tracing? Or are you tracing the outline of the actual pic and just doing the shading afterwards? The spacing on the pic with the pocket knife is near exact in the drawing and the photo which lead me to ask if you are tracing first. No biggie, just curious is all. I had a few art scholarship offers but didn't want to pursue it anymore at that point in my young and dumb life...
Semper Fi 57
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ABPOS,
Just a suggestion but, you might want to see if there are any art stores near you. If so I'd see what they have that you might use in your artistic endeavors. You have a God given ability that few possess. Use it & remember you can only get better.
Jim
Just a suggestion but, you might want to see if there are any art stores near you. If so I'd see what they have that you might use in your artistic endeavors. You have a God given ability that few possess. Use it & remember you can only get better.
Jim
I'm looking at a pic on my computer. So no, no tracing. I've got witnesses. LOL. Well my kids are. They are obviously biased witnesses but they can vouch for me nonetheless. If I was tracing it I'd have to probably have it on an tablet of large size, which I don't have. I'm drawing them on a 9 x 12 pad now. I guess one could have a copy of the photo made and trace it. But no, I'm not doing that. That'd be like cheating if you ask me. Not that I'd fault anyone for doing that if they wanted to. That doesn't really answer your question about how I'm making radius "so precise". I just draw it. I'll take that as a HUGE compliment. I try to be precise, but they're definitely not exact.
One way to see that I'm not tracing is if you look at some of the dimension on pretty much every drawing, they are off a little. In the drawing you brought up, if you look at the placement of the take down lever, and the overall shape of the handle, you'll see it's just not exact. Most of the time I'm adjusting the handle size a few or several times once I get the rest of the frame drawn because usually the proportions are off the first time around. On that one I adjusted it several times size wise, I think I kept making it longer. And I couldn't figure out how I messed up the placement of take down lever with the stocks, but I got it as good as I could.
Same with the 649, I think there is actually more real estate surrounding the take down lever than actually is on the gun..... And I think the grip is actually smaller in relation to the frame, than the real life gun. Just things that annoy me. I do my best but they're definitely off in small ways, in many places.
And honestly, each time I've started one when I start drawing it I think, there's no freaking way I'm going to be able to do this right. But I just do it anyways. Because I'd rather try. And then I'm like ecstatic when I get to the point that it actually seems to come together.
Admittedly I've avoided putting up every original pic because I knew it would show the differences between my drawing and the actual gun. And people would see, oh man, that is really off there. So I was trying to not draw a lot of attention to that. If you think I'd be more transparent and wiser to show the original picture every time, I could do that too.
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You mean like different pencils and erasers and stuff? That's not a bad idea. I was trying to keep it simple. But I hear what you're saying. My friend that is a really really good charcoal artist said I could get those "click" erasers and cut them with a knife to do like really small or thin erasing. Which really would come in handy. I'm actually pretty broke right now. So I probably won't spend too much money. But we do have an art store sort of close. I should go in there and see what kind of tools there are.
Thank you for the encouragement and kind words. I spend a lot of time focusing on all the areas I wish I was better in my life and pretty much feel like a failure a lot of the time. Maybe failure is more harsh than I should say, but definitely..... broken. So I guess having an area that is a shining light is really comforting. I've got a wonderful family too and really good friends. And I do meet some really nice people on this site and such. I really appreciate it.
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The pic I took of my Dad's gun that I did the drawing from, I should've done the speedloader too. That would've been cool. It's interesting how it's tapered. Because the lense on the camera does that and the perspective I guess. It was the same with the barrel and underlug. I tried to incorporate the fact that it looks wider at the front and tapers to a smaller dimension as it moves rearward to the frame. That was on of the reasons I didn't want to do the speedloader because a sensible person would say why is that tapered. Because in real life, it's not:
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I gentleman that writes for the TFB (the firearm blog) contacted me and wanted to do a small article about me and my drawings. He is a super nice guy. He's not a member here but he is at AR15.com. He's a police officer in Iowa and we've talked back and forth several times. I may have found a new friend and I'm totally flattered and humbled that he felt like sharing my story and drawings.
I hope it blesses someone because I know I'm not alone in my struggles with lyme disease.
POTD: Drawing Smith & Wesson Revolvers For Art Therapy -The Firearm Blog
I hope it blesses someone because I know I'm not alone in my struggles with lyme disease.
POTD: Drawing Smith & Wesson Revolvers For Art Therapy -The Firearm Blog
If you mean is posting a link a violation I don't think so, at least the way you did it. If I remember correctly, Lee says that we should not post just a bare link, but should explain why you are posting it, and why we should visit the linked site. I think you have done this, so if my understanding of the rule is correct, you are fine.
Here is the rule....
How to Post COPYRIGHTED Material
And that is a nice story that you linked us to. Of course, you also gave us your real name, which many folks don't want to do. But there are a lot of members here on the forum who know my real name, and I haven't had any problems with that.
Best Regards, Les
Here is the rule....
How to Post COPYRIGHTED Material
And that is a nice story that you linked us to. Of course, you also gave us your real name, which many folks don't want to do. But there are a lot of members here on the forum who know my real name, and I haven't had any problems with that.
Best Regards, Les
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Thank you. I really appreciate that. I like them too. LOL. I don't like everything I draw but this one I do like a lot.
I have been feeling better and not as slowed down as much so I haven't drawn one since that one. It's in the back of my head to do though and I should start another one. I keep looking for ones I want to draw and have a few in mind. One of them is a newer one with factory rubber combat grips and I'm overwhelmed by that because the little ovals are so perfect in there that I'm not sure I'd do it any justice...... Getting all to be so lined up and consistent would be a big challenge.
I have been feeling better and not as slowed down as much so I haven't drawn one since that one. It's in the back of my head to do though and I should start another one. I keep looking for ones I want to draw and have a few in mind. One of them is a newer one with factory rubber combat grips and I'm overwhelmed by that because the little ovals are so perfect in there that I'm not sure I'd do it any justice...... Getting all to be so lined up and consistent would be a big challenge.
Texas Star
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I'm adding both of you to my prayer list, ongoing.
If an observation helps, you might pay closer attention to getting hammer sizes in exact proportion.
I think it's remarkable that you do so well with pics on a computer screen, not able to hold the gun and turn it and feel what its weight and shape and balance can tell an artist.
As for your dad's 75th birthday drawing, I know how much it will mean to him. I have a painting of a lynx that my daughter gave me when she was 15. Her art skills are very considerable. And it's in full color, with foliage, too. I display it prominently.
I'm struggling with peripheral neuropathy, but your Lyme disease seems much worse, and certainly Jimbo's. I don't know if I could survive emotionally intact if I'd had to endure what he has.
Crystal Hefner has Lyme disease. She seems to have it gone now, or in remission. I think she's selling real estate today, as does her mom. So, it can sometimes be defeated or controlled. I hope that info inspires you.
Look up the cover to the hardcover edition of Ian Fleming's, "From Russia, With Love". See the modified Victory Model that artist Richard Chopping painted? He worked from life, borrowing that gun from Geoffrey Boothroyd. Seeing his work may give you some tips.
If you get bored with drawing guns, try trout. Your basic talent makes me think you may someday rival Joseph R. Tomelleri as a fish artist. I buy his trout calendar annually, and am always amazed at what the human hand and eye can depict. He is all but photographically accurate! But even an artist of his talent had to begin, then improve.
God be with you. My prayers will!
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Thank you Texas Star!!! I appreciate the prayers and kind words and all of it. I did notice on a couple of my drawings I wasn't happy with the hammer size too.... And I went over it in my head whether I should leave it or not. All of them have proportion issues. But if I could make them perfect, I'd have holes in my hands. LOL. But I am working on it. Well, I was... I imagine I'll start one again soon. I've been better physically so I spend less time on the couch and more time doing things. But I really want to start another one.
I'm sure Jimbo appreciates the prayers too. It is good to hear about people that have overcome. One of the issues is it takes a lot of money to really dial in what helps. There are so many varied treatments and way to go and we've spent more money than I really wanted to, to fight this. Now our budget is so tight from dealing with it all. Gotta get some of the bills paid off.
I'm sure Jimbo appreciates the prayers too. It is good to hear about people that have overcome. One of the issues is it takes a lot of money to really dial in what helps. There are so many varied treatments and way to go and we've spent more money than I really wanted to, to fight this. Now our budget is so tight from dealing with it all. Gotta get some of the bills paid off.
Rick_A
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I drew my stepson this free handed AK. He had a thing for them for a while. I've drawn a Colt 1991A1 and Beretta M9 as well...as well as some fantasy big bore revolvers.
Nice work, and congrats on getting on TFB. I'm a follower of theirs. Surprised I missed it.
Nice work, and congrats on getting on TFB. I'm a follower of theirs. Surprised I missed it.
That is very very very good!!!! You can post the others up if you want. I would love to see them and I'm sure other people would too!!!!
Another thing we have in common RickA. LOL. Pretty cool!!!!
Your picture of your picture is way better than mine. That is seriously a good digital pic of your drawing.
Another thing we have in common RickA. LOL. Pretty cool!!!!
Your picture of your picture is way better than mine. That is seriously a good digital pic of your drawing.
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