I think im going to give up on sw9ve

[Firearm_Fanatic 82]

This gun has had this same issue since I was 21 yrs old I am now 33. I have the spring changed on the trigger to smooth it out which by the way did help. I have changed the recoil spring I ordered that from Galloway precision I took the slide apart and cleaned that out real well. And no matter what I have done i cant get it to work right. I can fire three or four rounds and then I get the dreaded light primer strike. I put those rounds back in the magazine and they do fire. I even bought the black "allied force slide assembly" off of gun broker hoping to give it new life but nope still same issue. And it doesn't matter which ammo I use either still the same issue. Is it time for me to just hang it up???

 

[federali]

Ammo?

You did not say what you're using. If you're using hand loads, watch for both hard and high primers. CCIs are very hard and can cause ignition difficulties in striker-fired handguns. I have an M&P .45 that absolutely refuses to fire a shell with a slightly high primer, causing me to pay far more attention to my hand loads.

Anyway, the adage goes that you should not judge the reliability of a handgun with hand loads. If that's what you're using, get some factory loads and start over again.

 

[Arik]

Sometimes you get a lemon. Get rid of it and move on

 

[Firearm_Fanatic 82]

Ive used handloads, Remington, federal, fiochi no matter what I use still same issue. I own m&p 40c and full size .45 never have a problem going BANG with either one of them no matter what I feed them but I am aware some guns are finicky with ammunition but this does it with FMJ and JHP.

 

[MyDads38]

Have you cleaned the striker channel/assembly? Checked for any roughness or burrs in the striker channel/assembly? That would be where I would start, since you've changed out so many parts.

 

[Firearm_Fanatic 82]

Have you cleaned the striker channel/assembly? Checked for any roughness or burrs in the striker channel/assembly? That would be where I would start, since you've changed out so many parts.

yes that was first thing I did when the allied force assembly came in the mail I took the slide assembly completely apart because I had seen the youtube video on the brass fragments inside the striker channel so I flooded it with some cleaner and then blew it out with some compressed air. I also did the same thing with the original stainless steel slide I have for it. Also have tried new mags also still same issue.. only thing I haven't changed is the firing pin and the firing pin spring. Dont see any burs or obstructions in the channel

 

[unclebob]

Sometimes you get a lemon. Get rid of it and move on

Seems like you here a lot of the same complaints with Smith lately.

 

[Arik]

Sometimes you get a lemon. Get rid of it and move on

Seems like you here a lot of the same complaints with Smith lately.

This gun is 12 years old

 

[unclebob]

This gun is 12 years old

OP says it been happening for 12 years, members are saying the same thing now about new ones now, Smith needs to correct it ways and be a little more into qc.
I have a 30 year old gen 1 and it works flawless with any ammo.

 

[Tmatahead]

I had the same issue with my SW frame. This one is my toy gun, used only for killing zombies at the range. I couldn't remember if I had APEX or Galloway striker springs. So, I called 1-800 S&W customer service, and ask for a new striker, striker spring, cover & moon clips. They shipped me a whole new striker assembly, no charge. Last weekend, I put at least 200 rounds through without a hick-up. Some slow, precise, others quick, rapid-fire, they all went bang!

 

[Firearm_Fanatic 82]

This gun is 12 years old

OP says it been happening for 12 years, members are saying the same thing now about new ones now, Smith needs to correct it ways and be a little more into qc.
I have a 30 year old gen 1 and it works flawless with any ammo.

Yup thats correct 12year's this has been happening. And when I was 21 I never really gave it any attention to try and figure it out but now that im older and kinda being a little more enthusiastic about guns it has started to bug me that I cant figure out what's wrong with it. But maybe Arik is right maybe its just time to move on I just hate when I cant figure something out that I know somewhere out there this can be fixed im not the only one this has happen to with this model but if I can't rely on this gun like the rest of them then what's the point in keeping it. I guess at what point do you decide like Arik said to just move on? Better off just seeing if I can get some store credit for it to go towards an M&P 9mm maybe????

 

[Firearm_Fanatic 82]

I had the same issue with my SW frame. This one is my toy gun, used only for killing zombies at the range. I couldn't remember if I had APEX or Galloway striker springs. So, I called 1-800 S&W customer service, and ask for a new striker, striker spring, cover & moon clips. They shipped me a whole new striker assembly, no charge. Last weekend, I put at least 200 rounds through without a hick-up. Some slow, precise, others quick, rapid-fire, they all went bang!

Now that I didn't think of and the insanity continues lol

 

[Watchdog]

This gun has had this same issue since I was 21 yrs old I am now 33. Is it time for me to just hang it up???

I'd say so, yes.

 

[OKFC05]

I had the same issue with my SW frame. This one is my toy gun, used only for killing zombies at the range. I couldn't remember if I had APEX or Galloway striker springs. So, I called 1-800 S&W customer service, and ask for a new striker, striker spring, cover & moon clips. They shipped me a whole new striker assembly, no charge. Last weekend, I put at least 200 rounds through without a hick-up. Some slow, precise, others quick, rapid-fire, they all went bang!

I also cured a "continued complaint of failure to fire" by putting in a new OEM striker assembly.........Hmmmmm

 

[growr]

I would wager that if it were returned to stock as issued condition it would most likely run fine....

Randy

 

[Firearm_Fanatic 82]

I would wager that if it were returned to stock as issued condition it would most likely run fine....

Randy

its ran that way since I bought before I ever modified anything on the gun it had this issue.

 

[OKFC05]

its ran that way since I bought before I ever modified anything on the gun it had this issue.

And it has been returned to S&W for warranty service how many times?

 

[Firearm_Fanatic 82]

And it has been returned to S&W for warranty service how many times?

I bought it used from a Lgs 12years ago for $300. Never has ever been returned to S&W because I thought it being used it didn't come with a warranty from them. Seeing how I also altered the trigger spring to reduce the pull from what I've read that voids any warranty that the firearm might have had.

 

[OKFC05]

Is it time for me to just hang it up???

I am not a gunsmith, but I have extensive experience with the Sigma series, and own several that are shot a lot by different people.
Please accept my opinion as just one persons advice.
IMHO, you quite possibly bought a defective used gun with something wrong in the sear mechanism. However, instead of returning it stock to S&W, you started modifying it, and have done nothing related to fixing the problem. Therefore, all the "shotgun maintenance" is likely irrelevant to the problem. If anything, it increased the chance of mismatched parts.
Not sure what you are calling the "trigger spring", but according to S&W that is the small coil spring that only serves to return the trigger forward. You can take it out and the gun will still fire, but you have to push the trigger back forward manually.
It is the sear springs that must be modified/removed to appreciably reduce the trigger pull.
The striker spring should never be lightened on a Sigma if you want to avoid light strikes. It is possible NEITHER of your slides have a good striker assembly in it.

I suggest:
1. If you want to take one more try at it yourself, return the pistol to bone stock, including all OEM springs, and a new stock striker assembly. Test with good American factory ammo such as Federal or Win Super-X (not white box).
2. If it still is unsatisfactory, contact S&W and ask if they will please fix you pistol. At worst, they may want to see it before answering.
Contact Us - Smith & Wesson

Good luck!

 

[Firearm_Fanatic 82]

I am not a gunsmith, but I have extensive experience with the Sigma series, and own several that are shot a lot by different people.
Please accept my opinion as just one persons advice.
IMHO, you quite possibly bought a defective used gun with something wrong in the sear mechanism. However, instead of returning it stock to S&W, you started modifying it, and have done nothing related to fixing the problem. Therefore, all the "shotgun maintenance" is likely irrelevant to the problem. If anything, it increased the chance of mismatched parts.
Not sure what you are calling the "trigger spring", but according to S&W that is the small coil spring that only serves to return the trigger forward. You can take it out and the gun will still fire, but you have to push the trigger back forward manually.
It is the sear springs that must be modified/removed to appreciably reduce the trigger pull.
The striker spring should never be lightened on a Sigma if you want to avoid light strikes. It is possible NEITHER of your slides have a good striker assembly in it.

I suggest:
1. If you want to take one more try at it yourself, return the pistol to bone stock, including all OEM springs, and a new stock striker assembly. Test with good American factory ammo such as Federal or Win Super-X (not white box).
2. If it still is unsatisfactory, contact S&W and ask if they will please fix you pistol. At worst, they may want to see it before answering.
Contact Us - Smith & Wesson

Good luck!

Watch "Sigma Trigger Job Engineered Spring Fix Mod Sear …" on YouTube
Sigma Trigger Job Engineered Spring Fix Mod Sear …: http://youtu.be/6pEguWz813w

This is what I meant by trigger spring. Also I have never ever changed the firing pin spring or anything in the slide assembly besides the recoil spring. Someone mentioned earlier contacting S&W about an OEM striker assembly in post.number #10. Maybe I try that or maybe I just bought someone's lemon