I Was Robbed

robbed

I have never had a car stolen,I think that is because all of my cars has been been junk to start with, I count ammo & guns every night before bed. Nobody should have to warn you about all the slim ther is in this world. Iam sorry for your guns&ammo that was stolen. Its a new world out there, keep your guns & ammo close. Go to your range shoot-shoot and than shoot some. Dont show your guns around to much, licker makes the lips work overtime. watch your back bob k.
 
I have a 4X4 truck that sits in my yard in a safe neighborhood in Montana. I never lock the truck and always leave the keys in it.
Being from Chicago, the idea of leaving a vehicle unlocked, nevermind with the keys in it, just boggles my mind. Leaving a gun in it, isn't even on my radar. Hell, I can't even find the radar SET!
 
I know I am OT, but scoutsdad, I watched all last night on tv about the border patrol. I really missed the boat. Those guys have every good toy imanginable to play with! Airplanes, helicopters, quads, jeeps, all manner of gps`s, electronic listening gadgets, xray machines to use on cars and trucks they pass, nice dogs, boats, auto guns etc all on one program! I was born 50 years too late!
Actualy I did take the test back in the 70s, was given a number to go on and a few days latter president nixon put a freeze on hireing goverment employees. I guess it just wasnt met to be for me! That sure looks like a nice job, however I am not in love with that type hot country.
 
I'm sorry about your loss.

Consider it an expensive lesson. Never trust that everyone's honest.

I've lived in Troy, Oregon, 20 some years ago. Out in the middle of nowhere, population 14. I knew I could trust my friends and neighbors, however, I still locked my truck and house.
 
Hi:
You did report the burglary and thief to the Police?
You did secure the crime scene?
You did make a list of persons that has been in your vehicle?
Have you considered the people with knowledge what you kept in the vehicle console?
Taking the weapon and accessories sounds like someone residing within walking distances of your property.
 
Years ago my cousin had a gun stolen from his boat. It was recovered but he never got it back because they said he failed to secure it. A close friend left his keys in his Trans-Am and someone took it. He was suprised to find out it's not considered stolen. The cops won't look for it and his insurance won't pay. We all despise thieves yet so many help them by making it so easy.

Hi:
What part of Florida was this and what Agency investagated?
1. The weapon was stolen and when recovered it should have been returned to the owner.
2. The Trans-Am was stolen-PERIOD! The Insurance wouldn't pay without a Police Report.
 
No matter where ,Scum see a oppertunity...they will take it.

It's a hard lesson learned. Even the best areas will have a scumbag walk through it. And if they see a easy theft.....well you know. It sucks .I don't trust anything to chance. Times are changing everyday and it's not for the better. Just learn from it.
 
Many Years ago I upgraded a house I bought with new double glazed windows and a new, beefy front door. I happened to say to the guys putting in the windows that I hoped that they did not attract thieves as they might think I had money. The guy laughed and said that 99% of break ins are opportunistic in nature against houses with poor doors and windows. My new bits would make the average criminal walk on to the next house in search of easier pickings. You will not prevent the pro criminal getting your stuff by locking it up, but you will deter over 90% of the scum by simple measures.

They would have been SOL at my place anyway as all the upgrades left me somewhat broke.
 
Jimmy, The weapon incident was in Madeira Beach in 1979. The guy who stole it pulled it on someone but never fired it. The cops lectured my cousin on proper securring and never gave it back.

My friend with the Trans-Am filed a complaint but the cops told him and every local cop I questioned since told me that if they have the keys they won't treat it as a slolen vehicle. This was about 6 years ago. His ins company told him they won't pay a stolen car claim if the keys were left in it. I don't agree with it but that's what happened.
 
If a cop left a cruiser on the street with the keys in and someone took it for a joy ride, do you think they would skate? (If they lived through it)
 
Jimmy, The weapon incident was in Madeira Beach in 1979. The guy who stole it pulled it on someone but never fired it. The cops lectured my cousin on proper securring and never gave it back.

My friend with the Trans-Am filed a complaint but the cops told him and every local cop I questioned since told me that if they have the keys they won't treat it as a slolen vehicle. This was about 6 years ago. His ins company told him they won't pay a stolen car claim if the keys were left in it. I don't agree with it but that's what happened.

Long version but made as short as I can. I deal with this often. People loan or rent their cars to friends. The friend fails to return the car, has a hit & run accident or such. The owner claims it is stolen so insurance will pay for the damaged auto but the keys were used. That means the car was loaned. For the last few years, I have been finding what I call "Rent A Rock" since people exchange their car for rock cocaine. This may be for money or crack. The dealers need a different car since theirs may be being watched by LE or they do not want to risk seizure of their own in the event of arrest.

Naturally these Rent A Rock cars are involved in a lot of accidents due to drug use by the driver.

Also people learn their car was involved in an accident so they suddenly report it stolen. Another group will report the car stolen after having a DUI hit & run, only the car is reported stolen after it has been wrecked. There is seldom a sign of theft in these cases and the keys are often found in the vehicles.

Insurance companies are not in the business of buying people new cars because they make mistakes, one way or another. No punched ignition, no broken window for entry point and there will be no pay by the insurance.
 
Well, I'm not going to dump on you. I live where doors are not often locked by the old timers. They grew up in a different age. Mom doesn't even know where the keys are to her house. It was last locked up back in the 70's when it was my grandparents cabin up north.

I've been burgled once living up here, left the lights on in my car and killed the battery. Took a walk toward town to find someone to come out and give me a jump.

When I got back, my car was there by my fairly new diehard battery was gone. Sure hope whoever took it put it in their car and didn't try charging it before tossing it.

It took a long time before I felt right, as in secure where I lived. This sorta stuff doesn't happen to people often around here that don't hang out with trash.

Looks like you are going to have to develop some new security habits.

Szumi
 
Strato, that gun is in a dresser drawer of some florida retired cops house!

Do you have any sort of information that would substantiate any of your allegations? Felony theft and official misconduct are pretty stiff complaints-anything?............anything at all?


Years ago my cousin had a gun stolen from his boat. It was recovered but he never got it back because they said he failed to secure it. A close friend left his keys in his Trans-Am and someone took it. He was suprised to find out it's not considered stolen. The cops won't look for it and his insurance won't pay.

There is way more to this 3rd or 4th hand story than you were told or you are telling us. Stolen is stolen and whether or not the insurance will pay the loss has no bearing on whether an offense has occurred. Anyone ask the higher-ups at the police station about the gun? Anyone write a letter to the prosecutor's office or mayor or anything?

This story has a lot of holes, I think.
 
Do you have any sort of information that would substantiate any of your allegations? Felony theft and official misconduct are pretty stiff complaints-anything?............anything at all?




There is way more to this 3rd or 4th hand story than you were told or you are telling us. Stolen is stolen and whether or not the insurance will pay the loss has no bearing on whether an offense has occurred. Anyone ask the higher-ups at the police station about the gun? Anyone write a letter to the prosecutor's office or mayor or anything?

This story has a lot of holes, I think.

3rd hand would be if you're telling it now. He called me to vent as soon as the cops left. It made me mad too but that didn't change anything. I'm just stating what happened. Who does or doesn't believe it is irrelevant.
 
There are ways and "ways" of reminding someone they made a mistake, some of the "ways" expressed here are rather harsh. Sorry for your loss, friend; I'm betting you won't do that again, eh?

Pete
 
If a cop left a cruiser on the street with the keys in and someone took it for a joy ride, do you think they would skate? (If they lived through it)

ahh... the government stealing from you is quite differnet than you stealing from the government !

i have some power tools that cost a heck of a lot more than some of my guns but i dont lock them up in the safe. i think a gun is a different class of item.

if you had said you left a wallet with cash on the dashboard i would have said, well your just stupid and you created an opportunity for a bad minded person. they did have to go into the car and rifle thru the center box but thats no excuse for leaving it there.
 
There have been thieves as long as I have been on this Earth (61 years)
and long before that. Cf. The Ten Commandments. I recall complaints when I was in Junior High about
lunch thieves and then in the Army about barracks thieves, I recall field jackets had a way of disappearing. I drove a VW for years, I was cautioned by several cops among others that they were easy to break into and not to leave anything valuable in them, especially a firearm.
 
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