Hello! Could someone please enlighten me on the various divisions in ICORE and what is the best equipment for each division? I clicked on their website and I don't see a lot of the different divisions and equipment for each division. Speedloaders, MoonClips, barrel length, 6,7, or 8 round revolvers what is permitted and what is not? Thanks.
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SECTION 5 EQUIPMENT
1. All firearms used in ICORE matches must be revolvers with a .32 magnum caliber or greater and in sufficiently safe condition. All firearms are subject to inspection and approval by the Match Director or Range Officers.
2. Ammunition must produce a minimum power factor of 120000. The power factor equals bullet weight in grains multiplied by velocity in feet per second. All competitors may be tested for minimum power factor at any ICORE match. Six rounds will be collected from each competitor at random during the match and at least one of those six must equal or exceed a 120000 power factor when shot over a chronograph through the competitor's firearm. A seventh round may be collected and weighed, to accurately determine bullet weight. "FAILING TO MAKE CHRONO" will result in 360 seconds being added to a competitor's score. A competitor, using a revolver chambered in .38 Special and/or .357 Magnum and using factory new UMC 158 grain, Remington 158 grain, Blazer 158 grain, or Federal American Eagle 158 grain ammo, may compete without regard to power factor. (Revised 09/13/2004)
3. ICORE requires a holster that will securely hold your firearm. The holster must cover the trigger guard area. Holsters must be attached to your gun belt. The heel of the butt of the gun is not allowed below the bottom of the belt. (An exception shall be duty rigs and single action rigs.) Tie downs are allowed on single action rigs only. The Match Director may require a "holster test". With the gun/belt/holster assembly attached to the tester's waist, the revolver must be retained in the holster when the tester hops. During this hop, both of the tester's feet must clear the ground, the tester's heels must clear the ground by at least 3 inches and the tester may not hold or touch the revolver. All retention devices on the holster used to pass the holster test must be similarly engaged at the start of every course of fire.
4. ICORE requires a belt sufficiently strong enough to hold your holster and loaders in a safe manner. The belt is to be worn about the waist. Women may wear theirs at hipbone level.
5. ICORE requires sufficient loaders and loader holders as necessary to complete the stage at hand. The holders must be attached to your gun belt. You may do your initial loading from pockets prior to beginning the course of fire. However during the course of fire all reloads must come from your belt, unless otherwise directed by the course of fire or at the direction of the Match Director or Range Officers. During the course of fire, you may safely retrieve any ammo that has been dropped.
6. A revolver must compete in the Open Division if it has one or more of the following modifications:
A. Compensating, venting, or metering ports of any kind.
B. An optical sight including telescopic and red dot sights.
C. A rib sight, a front sight that extends beyond the muzzle, or a rear sight that extends beyond or behind a factory manufactured sight's location.
D. Any barrel other than an unaltered factory barrel or an unaltered factory replacement barrel made by the revolver's manufacturer. Alterations to the barrel other than what is required to safely install the barrel are not permitted in Limited Division. (Revised 16 February 2006)
E. An underlug, barrel weight, grip weight, or any other modification designed to increase the weight of the revolver.
7. Any revolver not competing in Open Division may compete in Limited Division or Retro Division subject to Rule 5.8 and 5.9.
8. A Retro Division revolver is a Limited Division revolver that has the following additional requirements:
A. Cylinder with only 6 chambers.
B. Must only use speed loaders to reload. Moon-clips are prohibited.
9. A revolver may only compete in a single Division that must be declared prior to the start of competition. (Revised 12 October 2009)
ICORE Rule Book
1. All firearms used in ICORE matches must be revolvers with a .32 magnum caliber or greater and in sufficiently safe condition. All firearms are subject to inspection and approval by the Match Director or Range Officers.
2. Ammunition must produce a minimum power factor of 120000. The power factor equals bullet weight in grains multiplied by velocity in feet per second. All competitors may be tested for minimum power factor at any ICORE match. Six rounds will be collected from each competitor at random during the match and at least one of those six must equal or exceed a 120000 power factor when shot over a chronograph through the competitor's firearm. A seventh round may be collected and weighed, to accurately determine bullet weight. "FAILING TO MAKE CHRONO" will result in 360 seconds being added to a competitor's score. A competitor, using a revolver chambered in .38 Special and/or .357 Magnum and using factory new UMC 158 grain, Remington 158 grain, Blazer 158 grain, or Federal American Eagle 158 grain ammo, may compete without regard to power factor. (Revised 09/13/2004)
3. ICORE requires a holster that will securely hold your firearm. The holster must cover the trigger guard area. Holsters must be attached to your gun belt. The heel of the butt of the gun is not allowed below the bottom of the belt. (An exception shall be duty rigs and single action rigs.) Tie downs are allowed on single action rigs only. The Match Director may require a "holster test". With the gun/belt/holster assembly attached to the tester's waist, the revolver must be retained in the holster when the tester hops. During this hop, both of the tester's feet must clear the ground, the tester's heels must clear the ground by at least 3 inches and the tester may not hold or touch the revolver. All retention devices on the holster used to pass the holster test must be similarly engaged at the start of every course of fire.
4. ICORE requires a belt sufficiently strong enough to hold your holster and loaders in a safe manner. The belt is to be worn about the waist. Women may wear theirs at hipbone level.
5. ICORE requires sufficient loaders and loader holders as necessary to complete the stage at hand. The holders must be attached to your gun belt. You may do your initial loading from pockets prior to beginning the course of fire. However during the course of fire all reloads must come from your belt, unless otherwise directed by the course of fire or at the direction of the Match Director or Range Officers. During the course of fire, you may safely retrieve any ammo that has been dropped.
6. A revolver must compete in the Open Division if it has one or more of the following modifications:
A. Compensating, venting, or metering ports of any kind.
B. An optical sight including telescopic and red dot sights.
C. A rib sight, a front sight that extends beyond the muzzle, or a rear sight that extends beyond or behind a factory manufactured sight's location.
D. Any barrel other than an unaltered factory barrel or an unaltered factory replacement barrel made by the revolver's manufacturer. Alterations to the barrel other than what is required to safely install the barrel are not permitted in Limited Division. (Revised 16 February 2006)
E. An underlug, barrel weight, grip weight, or any other modification designed to increase the weight of the revolver.
7. Any revolver not competing in Open Division may compete in Limited Division or Retro Division subject to Rule 5.8 and 5.9.
8. A Retro Division revolver is a Limited Division revolver that has the following additional requirements:
A. Cylinder with only 6 chambers.
B. Must only use speed loaders to reload. Moon-clips are prohibited.
9. A revolver may only compete in a single Division that must be declared prior to the start of competition. (Revised 12 October 2009)
ICORE Rule Book
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First, ICORE is fun. Shoot what you have. I've shot ICORE matches with all my K,L, and N frames.
If you have a dot sight and/or comp., you are in open. You'd likely want an 8 shooter.
If you have iron sights and no comp. shoot limited. You can shoot moons or speedloaders. Again, 6,7,or 8 shooters.
If you want to shoot a 6 shooter with speedloaders, retro may be for you.
I normally shoot in limited with my 627-4 .38 Super.
I will shoot some retro this year though.
Have fun,
Dave
If you have a dot sight and/or comp., you are in open. You'd likely want an 8 shooter.
If you have iron sights and no comp. shoot limited. You can shoot moons or speedloaders. Again, 6,7,or 8 shooters.
If you want to shoot a 6 shooter with speedloaders, retro may be for you.
I normally shoot in limited with my 627-4 .38 Super.
I will shoot some retro this year though.
Have fun,
Dave
David Sinko
Member
I plan on shooting Retro this year. Hopefully this new division will get a good turnout. You need to have at least a moonclipped 7 shooter if you want to be competitive in Limited, but any decent 6 shooter with Comp III loaders should be competitive in Retro.
Dave Sinko
Dave Sinko
My only complaint about ICORE is the powder puff loads they use. Coupled with heavy eight-shot revolvers, it isn't terribly realistic. But, it's just a game. Granted, the huge accuracy penalties (compared to USPSA and IDPA) force people in that direction to be competitive. The Retro division will be attractive to folks with "standard" revolvers, and I hope a lot of people participate.
Buck
Buck
tenntucker
US Veteran
I use a 627 8 times in Limited. I tried open for one match. Don't know if the C-More has landed yet.
Three years ago the Limited Divisiion was won by Angus Hubdan (SP) shooting a 626. Because the matches are set up to be 6 round neutral the 7 and 8 shots only have an advantage if they miss. They can make up a bad hit.
A good 686 with Comp IIIs will keep you going in Limited and in Retro Division. I'm planning on getting qualified in Retro myself this year.
A good 686 with Comp IIIs will keep you going in Limited and in Retro Division. I'm planning on getting qualified in Retro myself this year.
I have looked at the rules online, but don't see anything about barrel length. Is there a limit? Can I use my 6" barreled M19? My 5" Webley? (I'm actually giving some thought to using the Webley sometime, btw.)
Also, I saw in the holster requirements that a couple of exceptions were made for "the single action category" but saw no other mention of such a category under "Equipment". Is there a single action category?
Also, I saw in the holster requirements that a couple of exceptions were made for "the single action category" but saw no other mention of such a category under "Equipment". Is there a single action category?
Any barrel length can be used. I've even seen guys with 10 inch barrels there. Your model 19 would work right in and so would your Webley.
Holster just has to hold the gun securely. Test is to jump and n ot have the gun fall. You cannot hold the gun during this test.
I can't remember anyone shooting single action. Some stages require as many as 30 + shots and reloading under the timer would take too much time. Many of the stages have a max time and a single action would not be able to complete them. You cannot use two guns as in Cowboy actionn.
Holster just has to hold the gun securely. Test is to jump and n ot have the gun fall. You cannot hold the gun during this test.
I can't remember anyone shooting single action. Some stages require as many as 30 + shots and reloading under the timer would take too much time. Many of the stages have a max time and a single action would not be able to complete them. You cannot use two guns as in Cowboy actionn.
Thank you.
Looking around, it looked like there was either no barrel length limit, or it was on the generous side.
SA revolvers were only mentioned twice that I saw, both in the holster rules: Where it says the holster cannot locate the gun butt below the belt (except for single actions), and again where it says leg tiedowns are not permitted ( except for single actions). Yet I found no mention of SA revolvers at all in the Equipment section. If there was a class/category for them, I might consider using one for the heck of it. Otherwise no.
Looking around, it looked like there was either no barrel length limit, or it was on the generous side.
SA revolvers were only mentioned twice that I saw, both in the holster rules: Where it says the holster cannot locate the gun butt below the belt (except for single actions), and again where it says leg tiedowns are not permitted ( except for single actions). Yet I found no mention of SA revolvers at all in the Equipment section. If there was a class/category for them, I might consider using one for the heck of it. Otherwise no.
Single action can be a special recognition category at a match. It's up to the Match Director to add it and there will only be a plaque if there are at least three shooters in the category.
I was the rules coordinator for ICORE for 5 years so I'm pretty familiar with the rules.
I was the rules coordinator for ICORE for 5 years so I'm pretty familiar with the rules.
kraigwy
US Veteran
I shoot for fun, I shoot ICORE with a Model 64, the only modification was to dab some floresent orange paint on the front sight (really makes the front sight jump out there).
I can't load as fast as those with moon clips, or have the extra two rounds the 8 shooters have, but I really doubt there are any out there that have as much fun as I do.
I'm with the BRING WHAT YOU HAVE, AND WHAT YOU ENJOY SHOOTING THE MOST crowd.
I suppose I could do better if I got a 625 and full moon clips, but I really doubt I can have as much fun.
Shoot, I may shoot my next match with my 642 just to see what happens.
I can't load as fast as those with moon clips, or have the extra two rounds the 8 shooters have, but I really doubt there are any out there that have as much fun as I do.
I'm with the BRING WHAT YOU HAVE, AND WHAT YOU ENJOY SHOOTING THE MOST crowd.
I suppose I could do better if I got a 625 and full moon clips, but I really doubt I can have as much fun.
Shoot, I may shoot my next match with my 642 just to see what happens.
ICORE Italia
Don't know how close you are but Italy has been increasing their ICORE clubs a lot recently. Hope one is close to you.
Don't know how close you are but Italy has been increasing their ICORE clubs a lot recently. Hope one is close to you.
Too far away...
I live and work in the Paris area... That means around 1000 kms away from the Italian border line..
Alas.
Anyway, once again, this revolver only game is definitively a good idea.
I had a look on the ICORE website.
The rules seem perfectly well thought.
I live and work in the Paris area... That means around 1000 kms away from the Italian border line..
Alas.
Anyway, once again, this revolver only game is definitively a good idea.
I had a look on the ICORE website.
The rules seem perfectly well thought.
