If I see one more M&P with a chappy stippling job for sale...

[NotObvious]

I can't believe all the M&P pistols with crappy stipple jobs and bushwhacked sights. And folks are saying they want $900+ for them just cause they have a few extra mags.

A local seller posted on another board that it had less than 2k rounds and felt it was worth it.

Sorry, no used plastic gun with a solder iron stipple job is $900.

Just venting... My M&P pistols are fine as they are and uber fun to shoot. Proving you don't know gunsmith in is not a desirable feature to show off.

 

[SmurfHunter]

I just Hate seeing the shoddy jobs regardless.

 

[DocSunShine]

Free market, they can ask for the moon, doesn't mean they'll get it. I appreciate a professional stippling job, but I hear ya on the crappy stippling jobs... At the end of the day the market dictates the right price for these guns though.

 

[Smitty357]

I hate seeing stripple jobs like i hate seeing those nail polish jobs.

But to each his own, if it makes them feel it makes their weapon worth $900.

 

[Nframecollector]

I wouldn't give $9.00 for one! Not my style and just my .02!

 

[agksimon]

Some people want/need to have the latest "upgrade" to their gun. Whether or not they feel it makes it work better for them, or just like the look, is up to them. I am a firm believer it's the "software" behind the hardware that makes the biggest improvement in performance. Your money is better spent on training and practice than the cosmetic improvements, but most gun owners don't want to expend the time, work or money involved in "software" improvements.
Granted, there are some hardware improvements that will make your gun more reliable, but I don't believe that stippling is that necessary.

 

[Avery11]

I stippled my hands so now all my guns still look great but they never slip. The soldering iron sure does sting

 

[Jyezahn]

Why is it always a nitpick about someone else's personal preference? It's their choice to make their gun as personalized as they wish. If they want to dunk it in egg, roll it in flower, and fry the sucker, it's on them. Furthermore, you can buy a stock gun from an FFL and are not limited to pre-owned in any way, so let them ask what they want. Doesn't mean that they will or will not get it. It just means they won't get it from you.

If someone wants to change the way their gun looks in order to suit their personal preference, I'm all for it.

 

[NotObvious]

What someone does to their own gun is none of my biz. But trying to pawn off a **** as a priceless tierra is another thing.

If folks can't get it through their head that destroying the grips on a factory gun are a way to reduce the value, then don't be surprised if nobody else sees tha value.

Like putting an aftermarket spoiler on a car. It adds nothing and is rarely done correctly. Many a camaro and firebird were raped in the 70's and 80's by stupid folk.

Doing it to a handgun don't make it any better.

 

[srings]

Yeah...I'm all for the free market society/economy: you are free to trick out your firearm any way you like (that's awesome...go for it...there is some really cool or crappy jobs out there), free to re-sell it at any price you like (shoot for the moon...crazy but go for it), and I'm free to pass on it every time b/c of look, performance and/or price (bringing that price crashing to ground). Free market...gotta love it!

 

[Venenoindy]

Not a big fan of permanent altering the frame, I use skateboard tape or talon grips with great success.

 

[JSR III]

Like putting baseball cards in your bicycle spokes...

 

[Nakanokalronin]

I think any stipple job devalues any poly gun out there in my eyes. I'd never stipple something and if I had to in order to get a proper grip, I'd get a gun with a better built in texture. IMO, if you want to stipple the grip, either have a back-up unmodified frame or keep it for a long time since you're more than likely not going to get what you paid for it.

 

[CAJUNLAWYER]

"Uber fun to shoot" ????????????????

 

[Dino1]

It's a concealed carry weapon, why would you alter it from it's current state. The pistol performs great right out of the box for it's intended purpose. I can shoot mine in to 10 ring at 20' all day long, am I going to try and do that at 75' or 100' , I don't think so. So why alter a good weapon beyond it's intended purpose. I have several modified pistols, the Shield is good right out of the box. How do you fix something that is not broke?

 

[Jyezahn]

It's a concealed carry weapon, why would you alter it from it's current state. The pistol performs great right out of the box for it's intended purpose. I can shoot mine in to 10 ring at 20' all day long, am I going to try and do that at 75' or 100' , I don't think so. So why alter a good weapon beyond it's intended purpose. I have several modified pistols, the Shield is good right out of the box. How do you fix something that is not broke?

Not everybody buys an M&P for carry (nobody but you specified a Shield). Not to mention, even if they do carry it concealed, it's concealed, so why do you care what their gun looks like?

You ask, "Why alter a good weapon beyond its intended purpose?", then the very next thing you say, is that you have several modified pistols. Just because something is "good right out of the box" to you, doesn't mean it can't be better for someone else.

 

[Rastoff]

What someone does to their own gun is none of my biz. But trying to pawn off a **** as a priceless tierra is another thing.

No it isn't. Actually, I find your analogy funny because a tiara has absolutely no value to me. I'd rather have a cheeseburger.

Value is defined by two people and two people only; the guy with the merchandise and the guy with the currency. That's it. Our opinion has no bearing on what others value.

I would never pay $100 for a brick of .22LR, but lots of people did in this last year. Obviously it was worth it to them or they wouldn't pay it. So, who cares if a guy lists his M&P for $900? If you don't like it, don't buy it.

 

[Regulator]

The initial comment starting this thread and many of the followup observations simply blow me away. Difficult for me to
grasp the the mentality or purpose of it. Perhaps a desire for
generating an inane conversation leading to a pointless end.
To wit: If one doesn't like a "deal" walk away from it quietly, it's
not a worthy news flash. End of story!

 

[S&W Rover]

I tend to think the stippling jobs go overboard, and suspect the audience for them is not that large. But I agree that is up to the owner...

I ground the tang off the beavertail on my first full-size M&P (making it look a lot like a M&P compact) and was worried I might not be able to sell it... but the buyer didn't blink an eye.

I use 3M "stair safety" tape, bought at Lowe's/Home Depot, to increase the grippiness of my M&P's. $12 for a roll that seems to last forever, and very effective. A small square wrapped around the front of the grip, and a 1" x 1/2" bit near the thumb indent on the side, and it seems to improve the grip of the gun a lot for me. Personal preferences aside, I'd recommend anyone thinking about stippling try a little of the floor tape/skater tape first, to see if it works for you, too, without altering the gun.

 

[A2 Stippling]

I stipple parts for the M&Ps. I've had over 1200 customers in under two years…out of all of them, 3 people requested a refund because they did not like the stippling. It's a hobby for me that I really enjoy. I won't touch frames because I don't want to mess up someone's gun (or deal with FFL). I like the added grip/texture to my 5 plastic parts - and I like that I can add or remove these parts and replace with factory as needed. Am I against frame stippling? Nope. I had another member add some index stippling to my Pro and love it.

What I don't like (from one businessman to another) are those glittery/rhinestone abortions sold out there…mainly cued towards women. Wow - can't believe that niche exists…but to each his own.