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[bushmaster1313]

Here Are the Specific Executive Actions Obama Will Take to

If this is the real list of the Executive Orders it doesn't do anything except spend money.

 

[Muss Muggins]

Well, the key issue, which is quoted in your link is that there is no specific threshold of guns sold that qualifies you as a dealer requiring an FFL, and that assessment remains true. The article cites one extreme case where two sales by the same individual were found to trigger the FFL requirement, but that is not the norm. I also don't see the exemption addressed regarding liquidating a personal collection, so I assume that exemption remains.

 

[68sixspeed]

What I don't get is if you would need a ffl to sell for profit or a side business, last I knew you couldn't get anything but a c&r ffl without a retail storefront anymore? I didn't think they would issue a (01) ffl to a home based business? (But existing ones were grandfathered)

 

[bushmaster1313]

I would not run "a side business" without an FFL.

As to selling a gun for a profit, why not. However, in an abundance of caution I would not do things that might give the appearance that I was buying with the intent to sell at a profit. For example, Lipsey's will sometimes offer a limited special run of several hundred Ruger No. 1's in an exotic configuration. I would see no problem buying one to shoot and one to keep new in box for the long haul. But I would not buy 10 of the same gun and start selling them at a premium when Lipsey's ran out of their inventory.

Did I say I would not run "a side business" without an FFL.

 

[bushmaster1313]

Here is what might be the Trojan Horse in an otherwise toothless puff piece:

As the single largest purchaser of firearms in the country, the Federal Government has a unique opportunity to advance this research and ensure that smart gun technology becomes a reality—and it is possible to do so in a way that makes the public safer and is consistent with the Second Amendment. Today, the President is taking action to further this work in the following way:

This is the first step to requiring that all guns sold can only be fired by the person to whom they "belong."

 

[flagman1776]

I had an 01 FFL for my gunsmithy... after my divorce, I lost my separate workspace & wasn't able to reopen.
I was pressured to give up the FFL so the ATF had a smaller number to supervise. Now they wonder why there are people without FFLs. Ironic.
Maybe they'll insist that that people have FFLs... which means they'll have to issue them. Can't have it both ways.

 

[Sconnie]

Here Are the Specific Executive Actions Obama Will Take to

If this is the real list of the Executive Orders it doesn't do anything except spend money.

I wish I felt up to more specifics but we must be looking at different documents. I see a lot more than more spending. And...
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWCGJaYk-Zw[/ame]

 

[YeshuaIsa53]

The Devil will be in the details...

 

[hoc9sw]

Actually it does a lot based on reading the article. The one that is scary is linking the Social Security information on those disabled. We've beaten that horse to death, but it creates a precedent.

 

[retiredbadge8091]

Nothing can happen without funding. Might I suggest we write our congressmen and encourage them once again to starve the beast.

 

[Rick_A]

It's always to further government. I'd like to see it go the way of the rest of his stupid executive orders.

 

[TTSH]

If this is the real list of the Executive Orders it doesn't do anything except spend money.

Pretty much correct. Looks like a lot of restatements of existing law and regs with a few ambiguous threats and embellishments thrown in, designed mainly to fool the gun-grabbing voter base.

Same sort of thing happened here in MA last week. Our AG put out a lengthy letter designed to threaten our dealers (and gun owners by extension)... but in the end, it was little more than a restatement of existing law and regs plus a threat of more aggressive dealer audits.

I think it's the best they can do to us without actual legislation.

 

[sunnyd]

The criminals will sure be upset when they find out about this!!

 

[italiansport]

If this stands if will mean the end for us who buy and sell a few guns at guns show but are primarily collectors and collecting for ourselves. No one is going to sit at a show wondering if the Feds are going to show up at his table with handcuffs after he makes a sale.
Jim

 

[Rivoak]

Hey. Let's look at this objectively. Hiring more people to do checks under existing rules isn't a bad idea. It speeds up your wait at the counter when you buy a gun. Secondly, spending more on mental health isn't bad. We have way to many crazy people on this country. If we could keep guns away from crazy people it would be good for all of us.

 

[e3mrk]

The problem with the mental health issue is, What will the guidlines be?
Some People only suffer from depression for a short time while others are full blown nut's.
All this will do is make People not get help for fear of losing their rights.

 

[bushmaster1313]

All this will do is make People not get help for fear of losing their rights.

Excellent point

Especially in regards to the many veterans who dealt with some serious stuff in defense of our liberty.

 

[rustythread]

In addition to the unreliability of "to-do" lists of possible exec. orders as predictors of future action, look at the regulation changes actually made by the various agency heads--per the press release, the Dept of Health was already making changes to the HIPAA regs on privacy of individual medical / mental health information, apparently to conform to the Prez's wishes.

 

[moralem]

Much ado about nothing.

 

[Muss Muggins]

Much ado about nothing.

I like to use #FormOverFunction . . .