In praise of all things RCBS

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I just came downstairs after loading 300 rounds on my RCBS Piggyback II. Now, before I start this, I am well aware of the "old timer reloading" thread out there, and this is not about that at all. But time does function into what I am about to say...

Everyone these days screams about Mike Dillon's products. I am certain they are great pieces of machinery; I just got started handloading before Mike Dillon was a player, and my favorite color being green, I bought RCBS. I bought an ammocrafter set and a set of .270 dies, and off I went.

As the years rolled along I got to the point I was ready to do some progressive loading, and the logical step for me was the Piggyback II. So, to the house it came. It took some learning, as they all have quirks, and this machine was no different. So I learned it.

Fast forward to this afternoon: when I finished the first hundred and the shell holder locked open on the primer detection pin, I walked into the other room where the Midway boxes are. When I finished loading the 100 rounds of 158 SWCs into the 5001 box, I looked at the time. It was 4:08 CDT. I went back to the press, changed out the primer tube, and started again. When the second shell plate lockup occurred at the second hundred, I walked back to the other room. I looked at the clock, and it said 4:25 CDT.

If my math is correct, that is 100 rounds in 17 minutes, or 5.88 rounds per minute, just a tad short of one round every ten seconds. That is just about what it takes to load a case, a projectile, and pull the handle.

I guess what I am saying is that although I am definitely not a speed freak when it comes to handloading (I load rifle shells single stage with the exception of 5.56...), it is pretty gratifying to be able to load almost 300 rounds an hour and take your time. I was in no hurry, and I did not have a single issue with powder spillage, a primer failing to feed, or anything else. The Piggyback performed like oil on glass.

You good men can use your Hornady L-N-Ls, and your Dillon SDBs, 450/550s, and whatever else is out there. I think I will stay with my green stuff. It seems we understand one another, and that is a good feeling.
 
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Sometimes it just depends what you started with and being a valued customer afterwards. In my case it was "blue".
 
You know RCBS made the "Green Machine" too. :rolleyes:

I started on a RockChucker II, and still use it for my rifle rounds. Have always had good products with RCBS and their Customer Service is outstanding. Perhaps my favorite tool on my bench is their Automatic Bench primer.

My progressive press is a Dillon 550, and I've been happy with it in the limited amount that I've used it. Both companies make good products, and so do many other companies like Redding, Forster, Wilson, Harrells, Hornady, Lyman, C&H, Sinclair, and many others that I'm forgetting...oh and yes Lee.
 
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This is going to sound crazy but I elected not to get a progressive reloader when I got back into reloading. I do not shoot enough to warrant the cost but that is not the main reason going with a Rock Chucker. I enjoy the time spent at the reloading bench reloading. I might do 100 to 150 rounds every time I reload. It takes maybe a couple hours but that is my time and I am enjoying every minute of it.
 
I got my start in reloading with an RCBS,Jr in 1971. When I decided to move up to a progressive I bought one of their new "Green Machines". What a nightmare. After a year of fighting that thing I found someone to buy it (for a greatly discounted price) and got a Star Universal. Loaded something over 350,000 rounds of 45 ACP (based on sleeves of LP primers used) in 30 years of use. When Star went under and support for them dried up I switched to Dillon. Not better than the Star in terms of quality of ammo produced but cheeper, simpler and it's hard to beat their factory support.

To the OP, if you're happy with what you have more power to you. I don't get why you felt the need to take a shot at Dillon (Everyone these days screams about Mike Dillon's products.) but oh well, YMMV.

Dave
 
Dave, you misunderstood... my point was that possibly the only reason I don't use Dillon is because they weren't around when I started handloading. The last thing I meant by what I posted was a putdown...

But maybe I AM just a tad ticked at him... after all, he is who put Star out of business.
 
I started with RCBS but wandered away to another less expensive brand for several pistol calibers.

One of those did have a problem with the seating stem. Not a big deal as I had another set to substitute for that function.

This year I needed another rifle die set in .32 WSP.

I almost purchased the other brand but decided to go with RCBS.

What a surprise to see the expertly made set of dies that came out of a green box.

This is the very best die set that I own. I'm really happy that I made the choice to go green.

BLM
 
You know RCBS made the "Green Machine" too. :rolleyes:

I started on a RockChucker II, and still use it for my rifle rounds. Have always had good products with RCBS and their Customer Service is outstanding. Perhaps my favorite tool on my bench is their Automatic Bench primer.

My progressive press is a Dillon 550, and I've been happy with it in the limited amount that I've used it. Both companies make good products, and so do many other companies like Redding, Forster, Wilson, Harrells, Hornady, Lyman, C&H, Sinclair, and many others that I'm forgetting...oh and yes Lee.

novalty-

I couldn't agree with you more! I use everyone's equipment....Lyman, RCBS, C&H, Forster, Redding, Dillon and Lee. I couldn't get by without my old RCBS Rockchucker press for rifle loads.

I had 3 RCBS "Green Machines" (one each in .38, .45 and 9mm) which were aggravating as heck to run!!! When I finally had had enough I went with 2 Dillon 550Bs. But before I switched to Dillon I tried a variety of machines - Star, Hornady, RCBS, Dillon, etc., that belonged to other reloaders. I find that both RCBS and Dillon have excellent product support.

The only other RCBS product I had a problem with was the Hand Priming Tool. I guess I just couldn't get the technique right - a bench mounted priming tool works better for me.

T
 
I started out with the Lee hammer system in 1972 and went with a RCBS "jr" in 1975. Its still on my bench next to a MEC and a couple of Dillons. Its worn so now that the handle won't always stay up but I still use it to load my big rifle cartridges.
 
You found something that works for you, more power to you. I use pretty much everybody's gear; RCBS, Hornady, Dillon, redding, even lee. I started with a RCBS jr, still have it, but it's now a teaching press. I run a 550, 650 & RCBS ammo master. All good stuff, all supported well if I need something.
Dillon has a great rep for cs, but really, all the companies back their gear. I have never paid for a broken part, my fault or theirs. Only lee has been cheap about replacements, asking me to mail them a defective bullet mold, but nothing to reimb for the shipping. Yeah it wasn't much $$, but always stuck in my craw. I still buy some lee things, but not much.
 
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The more I pursue this hobby, the more colors I find on my bench.

It's all good!
 
I would like a new press but..........

My original RCBS single ram that is 48 years old, just keeps on ticking and putting out metallic loads.

I might have to replacer the 38 spl. dies........the cases are showing light scratch marks from being raised into the dies.
 
I would like a new press but..........

My original RCBS single ram that is 48 years old, just keeps on ticking and putting out metallic loads.

I might have to replacer the 38 spl. dies........the cases are showing light scratch marks from being raised into the dies.

Some super fine steel wool & bore brush in the drill will fix that. It is likely nickel shavings embedded in the die wall if they are not carbide.
 
I began in 1979 with the RCBS Junior. I replaced it with a Rock Chucker, and have been using that since. I throw my powder with Lee dippers, and I load fast enough to keep me happy.

I think Dillon makes a great product, and if I felt I needed one, I would most certainly have one.
 
...and the shell holder locked open on the primer detection pin...
This is the only feature I don't like on the PBII. To work around it I load the same number of cases in ammo trays as there are primers in the tube, that way, when the cases are gone the primer tube is empty and I can remove the empty tube and pin without locking the shell holder open.
 
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