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I know this is the stupidest reason for doing anything, but I've got a lot of time on my hands to watch tv and such (unemployment sucks). Anyway, I was watching tv and saw a suppressed shotgun being built and it seems like it would be pretty easy to do the same setup on a 15-22. Suppressor was machined integral to the barrel. Has anyone done this to a 15-22; Beltfed, seems like this may be up your alley. I'd really like to do this, legally of course, but will have to wait for the employment situation to turn around (I've given myself until August to find a good job, then I start talking to recruiters and head to whatever lovely government organization will have me).

James.
 
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Yes, that is what I was getting at. It would be nice to have a suppressed 15-22, and I like the look of the integrally suppressed weapons better. AS I CURRENTLY UNDERSTAND IT, to suppress a weapon there is a BATF application/stamp that needs to be obtained and approved and then a $200 tax is paid. Is that per gun, per suppressor or one time only and buy all you can use (my personal hope as I have 9, 40, 45, .223, and soon 7.62 weapons)? Is there any other tax/paperwork because it is integral to the gun, or the same as any other suppressor?

Just one of those things that sticks in the back of my mind until I give it some more thought and since I haven't seen anyone do it, thought I'd ask about it. Seen one on a savage MKII bolt gun that was ridiculously quiet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upPICPgtGmM&feature=related

James.
 
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i had a friend that used to work for a machine shot who manufactures .22 suppressors for a major suppressor brand. he showed me a full little project they did at the shop for fun. they took a standard 10/22 bull barrel,drilled out about 8 inches of it and stacked baffles out of one of the silencers in it and then welded it all up and put a cap on the end of the bull barrel. so just looking at it you would never know that it was silenced. that sucker was crazy quiet using subsonic ammo.
 
The $200 tax is paid for each and every NFA toy you want. You can build your own suppressor on a Form 1 but it has to be approved by the ATF before you can actually build it. Unless you have the equipment and knowledge to make one I wouldn't trust it, the last thing you need is for it to blow apart from the pressure o have a baffle strike and then that $200 is wasted.
 
anybody have any experience with multi-caliber suppressors. Saw some using 9mm cans on .22 pistols and it worked pretty well. Could a .45 be used on all smaller calibers or would the extra room around the bullet reduce effectiveness?

James.
 
wolfe 21 said:
anybody have any experience with multi-caliber suppressors. Saw some using 9mm cans on .22 pistols and it worked pretty well. Could a .45 be used on all smaller calibers or would the extra room around the bullet reduce effectiveness?

James.
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I have two form 1 cans and yes a can that is made for a larger caliber will work on a smaller caliber as long as the pressure of the smaller round does not exceed the cap. of the can... A intregally suppressed 15-22 would be quiet easy to do if you built it simular to a john norrell intregally suppressed 10/22.. if you have access to the machines a form 1 can is easy enough to do.. the down side to a intregally suppressed rifle is that can is part of that barrel and can't be used on multible firearms.. the up side is if your smart enough to do it right you can fire cheap hv rounds at sub sonic speeds..
 
wolfe 21 said:
anybody have any experience with multi-caliber suppressors. Saw some using 9mm cans on .22 pistols and it worked pretty well. Could a .45 be used on all smaller calibers or would the extra room around the bullet reduce effectiveness?

James.
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The 45 can will work on a 9mm or a 22 and be very effective what they lack in a tight bore hole they make up for with vol. The problem you will run into is most 45 cans are threaded differently than 9mm or 22.. The other problem is the size of a can and the tuning of the neilson device inside the can. 9mms operate at different pressures than 45s so it may or may not cycle your 9mm. Some company's have tunable neilson devices which would solve that problem but a rimfire will gum up a neilson device so quick its not funny.

If your going to use a can on big bore pistols then buy a can suited for it something that has an adjustible booster(aka neilson device) and if your going to shoot high caliber rifles buy the largest caliber you plan to shoot and use it on the small calibers of hp rifles that you have . And lastly buy a rimfire can if your going to shoot rimfires threw it.. its hard to justifiy a 13" long 3lb 338 mag can on a walther p22 not because it won't work, but just because it weighs more than the gun does and its twice as large.
 
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Phillip just started offering an Integral M&P 15-22. with a removable stainless steel core. We just posted a video of me shooting one for the first time. It’s awesome fun and super quiet. Here’s the website Innovative Arms - Silencers

VIDEO- YouTube - M&P 15-22 Integral


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ATF taxes and paperwork included or is this basically just the suppressor/machinework? Not bad at 3, too much for me at 5 bills.

James
 
wolfe 21 said:
ATF taxes and paperwork included or is this basically just the suppressor/machinework? Not bad at 3, too much for me at 5 bills.

James
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I can't see them doing that kind of work for only $95 so I seriously doubt it includes the $200 federal tax stamp.
Its too bad, because its an outstanding setup.
 
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