IRS Raids Gun Store, Takes 4473s

[twodog max]

In these perilous times one does not need to be guilty of anything to be singled out for special treatment .
Those 87,000 new IRS agents will not be going after billionaires so that leaves guess who.

 

[Benton Quest]

Im regards to Ken Ballew, a lot has changed in over half a century.

Sent from my SM-G990U using Tapatalk

 

[Benton Quest]

In these perilous times one does not need to be guilty of anything to be singled out for special treatment .
Those 87,000 new IRS agents will not be going after billionaires so that leaves guess who.

Once again, you are quoting a lie that had been falsely promulgated for political purposes.

Sent from my SM-G990U using Tapatalk

 

[Secundius]

In these perilous times one does not need to be guilty of anything to be singled out for special treatment .
Those 87,000 new IRS agents will not be going after billionaires so that leaves guess who.

Over a ten year period! The so called 87,000 new agents won't be coming at you all at the same time, and most of those 87,000 agents aren't even agents, but tax consultants and auditors…


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

 

[Benton Quest]

Over a ten year period! The so called 87,000 new agents won't be coming at you all at the same time, and most of those 87,000 agents aren't even agents, but tax consultants and auditors…


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

And clerical staff...

Less than 2%, if that, would be special agents.

This is much to do about nothing.

Sent from my SM-G990U using Tapatalk

 

[biku324]

I wonder how this would apply to Ken Ballew?

Wwll, it's not 1971, so I wouldn't have a clue. However, the judge in his civil rights case said too bad.

The judge determined that Ballew's decisions and behavior — including his stock of weapons, his barricading of the door, and his being armed when the officers entered — meant that "his injuries were the direct result of his own contributory negligence."

 

[Waldo]

Wwll, it's not 1971, so I wouldn't have a clue. However, the judge in his civil rights case said too bad.

The judge determined that Ballew's decisions and behavior — including his stock of weapons, his barricading of the door, and his being armed when the officers entered — meant that "his injuries were the direct result of his own contributory negligence."

The question was not if Ken Ballew won a suit. The question was rather Ken Ballew woke up one morning and having broken no laws, found himself targeted by the government. The judge determined that having guns, securing his home and being armed when someone broke into his was contributory negligence. Do you really wonder why a forum full of gun owners does not trust the government? I wonder with your reply if you are being deliberately obtuse?

 

[Rob613]

So how busy was the store?



How well stocked with merchandise are they?



Are they still selling firearms?



Was the shooting range busy?



Did you ask why the business is for sale?

The store was busy, I was there for 30 minutes or so and seen 2 sales and a layaway. Plenty of inventory, said they are selling lots of ARs and Glocks (running a 10% off sale on Glocks). Range is never really "busy", it's 8 lanes and you can almost always get a lane. It had 3 people on it that day.

I didn't ask why it's for sale, it's not really any of my business.

 

[biku324]

The question was not if Ken Ballew won a suit. The question was rather Ken Ballew woke up one morning and having broken no laws, found himself targeted by the government. The judge determined that having guns, securing his home and being armed when someone broke into his was contributory negligence. Do you really wonder why a forum full of gun owners does not trust the government? I wonder with your reply if you are being deliberately obtuse?

And only 52 years ago.

I trust the government because I know that quite unlike 1971 I can hold agencies accountable (either through FTCA or perhaps a 'Bivens' action) if they step outside the law. Agencies and their managers know it as well, and there is little recognizable in Fed policies and practices today as opposed to back then at the early morning of the Due Process Revolution.

I guess I could be mad about the Tuskegee Experiment as well. That also ended in 1972, while I was in high school.

Things change.

 

[Racer X]

I don't know this FFL, but his situation sounds similar to what happened to an LGS FFL in one of our suburbs.

The LGS was called Gunsmoke. Guy had a beautiful wife and daughter and had a TV show that included some illegal classIII guns.

The owner is in prison right now for tax fraud and violating the gun control laws. He had lost his FFL but continued selling through a front. Owes the feds a bunch.

I remember that show. He did business with the then current owner of that cool circular house used in the Woody Allen movie "Sleeper" Either the daughter or wife is named Paige.

 

[Beemerguy53]

...Those 87,000 new IRS agents...

Please cite your source for the number you quoted above, and please document that this claim is accurate...thank you.

 

[twodog max]

It has been widely reported for months that the Biden administration is pursuing this. I have seen and read this from many sources. There was even a big flap when first announced concerning the arming of these new agents. Now whether it has occurred or is still in the works I do not know but the push is there.
Don't believe this then look for yourself

 

[Benton Quest]

It has been widely reported for months that the Biden administration is pursuing this. I have seen and read this from many sources. There was even a big flap when first announced concerning the arming of these new agents. Now whether it has occurred or is still in the works I do not know but the push is there.
Don't believe this then look for yourself

You can find plenty of references to bolster your claim. The fact is, they are wrong.

The numbers have been distorted.

The "push" was to hire 87,000 "employees" over TEN YEARS. That would probably not keep up with attrition.

They were NOT all going to he armed. The only segment of the IRS that is armed is the smallest section known as Criminal Investgation. They are rare. Most here have never met one. It's a hard position to fill with strict, narrow requirements. They could not find 87,000 qualified applicants if they wanted to...

Sent from my SM-G990U using Tapatalk

 

[Secundius]

It has been widely reported for months that the Biden administration is pursuing this. I have seen and read this from many sources. There was even a big flap when first announced concerning the arming of these new agents. Now whether it has occurred or is still in the works I do not know but the push is there.
Don't believe this then look for yourself

It was Joe Biden either, but rather Matt Gaetz who started the rumor mill ball rolling on FOX's Tucker Carlson Show on 4 August 2022, based on a GAO report he was presented during an Government Briefing in 2018! In fact Donald Trump started the IRS Agent initial hiring's in 2017 with the hiring of 2,159 new IRS employees…


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk

 

[BSA1]

Did you ask why the business is for sale?

Understood. As this is being presented as a gun purchasers rights issue I would want to know why if I was being asked to contribute to the owners "legal fees" to fight the IRS and not the BATF.

 

[Beemerguy53]

It has been widely reported for months that the Biden administration is pursuing this. I have seen and read this from many sources. There was even a big flap when first announced concerning the arming of these new agents. Now whether it has occurred or is still in the works I do not know but the push is there.
Don't believe this then look for yourself

I, and many others, have looked for ourselves..have you? This allegation is false. You are using the Forum to spread rumors and lies.

 

[Beemerguy53]

Here's one more reason why this whole claim about "87,000 new armed IRS agents is so silly...

The entire US Secret Service has 7000 employees...officers, agents, specialists, everybody.

The entire FBI employs about 37,000 people.

The entire TSA employs about 47,000 people, including checkpoint personnel, checked baggage officers, Federal Air Marshals, Inspectors, etc.

The DEA has 9848 employees.

The US Marshal's Service employs approximately 5,400 people.

And yet people accept, and parrot, a claim that the IRS is going to hire 87,000 armed agents??? How gullible can you get?