Curious as my Lee 2nd edition has no load data for it in any table.
Is Alliant 2400 a "new" powder or re named?
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OP
Curious as my Lee 2nd edition has no load data for it in any table.
Erich
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It's been around since . . . well, Sharpe's 1941 book discusses it.
bmcgilvray
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I'm thinking I've got a reference around here that states that Hercules introduced 2400 around 1932 for use in the then new .22 Hornet.
OP
Hmmm, very odd. Maybe Mr Lee just didn't like it, forgot it or just no more room for it.
OCD1...I'm looking at my copy of Lee's 2nd ed. page 560... "HERC 2400"...along with all the other Alliant powders, were originally made by the Hercules Powder Co. up until the late 80's or early 90's when the factory was bought by Alliant... 2400 has been around since Moby Dick was a sardine...
OP
Yep, I see it there. I also have now found it on the 44 Mag up in the heavier bullets.
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Skip Sackett
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jrplourde
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That is worth quoting.
OP
You forgot to use the """""
"...Since Moby Dick was a Sardine"
CMcDermott
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If you look at the latest load manuals you'll see that Alliant 2400 is a little faster that the old Hercules 2400, and the loads have been reduced to compensate for the change in the powder.
Paul5388
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I have serious doubts that 2400 is anything other than what it has always been. Alliant would be opening themselves to a rash of lawsuits that calamine lotion wouldn't cure, if they changed it.
Everyone doesn't have access to the latest and greatest loading manuals and there certainly hasn't been any mention of a change on their website.
Everyone doesn't have access to the latest and greatest loading manuals and there certainly hasn't been any mention of a change on their website.
Brian Pearce from Handloader Magazine, talks about 2400 being faster than the stuff in the '70's was all the time. He rarely fails to mention it when he lists loads for 2400. Same goes with John taffin.FWIW
Paul5388
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The esteemed writers may think that's the case, but I haven't found it to be true in what I've loaded and clocked. I've also heard many say the same. It's still the same as it has always been, which I think is Alliant's saying too.
Didn't Alliant issue an alert some months ago about recent batches of Blue Dot not to be used in a 357 Mag load with 125gr bullets, and not to use it in the 41 Mag for any load !? (really bizarre) Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe thats basically what Alliant said on their website...and isn't there a more recent warning or recall for batches of Unique...something about maybe Bullseye powder in canisters with a Unique label (They must've hired Stevie Wonder for quality control)...
Perhaps the best answer to OCD1's question: Is 2400 a new powder?...Not yet.
Perhaps the best answer to OCD1's question: Is 2400 a new powder?...Not yet.
Modern Unique loads have been reduced a lot from the old days, but I've never heard anyone claim that Unique is faster than it was.
I think the reduced loads are due to lawyers, not changes in the powder.
I think the reduced loads are due to lawyers, not changes in the powder.
bogman
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Unique, & 2400 are my only powders. both work great with lead bullets.
Paul5388
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And they said?
