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Is it all Tactikool now?
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There is a YouTube video in which some Russian actually reviews a can of that stuff. He opened up the can and he pulled the bacon out in wax paper and he poured grease out of the can.
He ate some of the bacon it was fully cooked but I can't imagine what all that grease would do to your insides.
I think tactical jumped the shark for me when I saw an advertisement on my Facebook page for Tactical sweatpants. I seem to remember also seeing an advertisement for tactical underwear.
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Humor was somewhat the point, and I was thoroughly amused by the article in AR. But by the same token, I was serious about the conversion of classic firearms such as lever rifles to polymer, Pic rails, MLOK, etc. Never mind the rest of the assortment of black polymer.
For me, it's actually not earth-shattering. I was trained on a polymer (fiberglass?) stocked M-14 way back when, and when I finally bought an M1A it was stocked similarly. I slowly moved over to the AR world, and I'm pretty sure that's the world that gave birth to all things "tactical", post Vietnam.
Then the "wonder nines" turned into Glocks and plastic frames and "all things became tactikool. It was just somewhat surprising to see that many "things" all in one place in the AR.
So, AR, America's rifle, assault rifle, Armalite, American Rifleman. Read carefully my friends.
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It must hurt people's mouths to say plastic...........So all plastic guns are......(drum roll please).....POLYMER......Stronger than Superman
It seems that if it really looks stupid they tack on the 'Tactical' label. Then the purchaser adds on some more silliness and it is then referred to as 'Tactikool'.
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I thought tacticool has been a thing for the past 20 years.
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The worst of it is the Tactical.22 ammo.
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They only come in dark brown colour.
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You'd think that the whole Tactical trend would have rightfully died out by now, but evidently it's going stronger than ever now that they're taking old Cowboy Guns and painting them black with paracord wrapped levers, flat top MIL-STD-M1913 Rails and MLOK Handguards.
At this point I'm so desperate for something different that they could revive the old Zombie trend with neon green painted furniture and biohazard symbols on the receivers. I'd honestly be more interested in a Smith & Wesson Z-HUNTER Lever Action Rifle than any of these Tactical Tomahawks because at least that might have some collectors value somewhere down the line.
At this point I'm so desperate for something different that they could revive the old Zombie trend with neon green painted furniture and biohazard symbols on the receivers. I'd honestly be more interested in a Smith & Wesson Z-HUNTER Lever Action Rifle than any of these Tactical Tomahawks because at least that might have some collectors value somewhere down the line.
One of my favorites is "operator." When I first saw the term come into common use to describe the would-be commandos of the world it reminded me that my Dad used to call my son an "operator" when he was about five years old, but he meant something different.
I don't mind all the silly tactical rubbish. If it keeps the young people interested in shooting, so be it. And I don't despair too much of it cluttering up gun magazines. There is so much gun stuff available to read, often for free, that it hardly matters. If you look around a bit you'll find whatever you're interested in. Hopefully a lot of the young operators will eventually get tired of the high speed/low drag world and take an interest in other types of weapons, too.
When I first saw the term come into common use to describe the would-be commandos of the world it reminded me that my Dad used to call my son an "operator" when he was about five years old, but he meant something different. I don't mind all the silly tactical rubbish. If it keeps the young people interested in shooting, so be it. And I don't despair too much of it cluttering up gun magazines. There is so much gun stuff available to read, often for free, that it hardly matters. If you look around a bit you'll find whatever you're interested in. Hopefully a lot of the young operators will eventually get tired of the high speed/low drag world and take an interest in other types of weapons, too.
FWIW, "tactikool" isn't my cup of tea either, BUT...
If it sells more guns - and thereby increases the number of gun-owning, pro-2nd-Amendment Americans - then I'm all for it.
The more gun owners we have on our side, the harder it will be for the anti-gun zealots to take away our 2nd Amendment rights.
I prefer beautiful wood and blued steel. But if flat black plastic-fantastic guns are what the majority of the gun-buying public wants, then I say, make 'em, market 'em, and sell 'em. Give the next generation of gun owners what they want.
I can't see a downside to introducing and selling more guns that appeal to the younger folks, even if it means that the gun manufacturers are less focused on marketing and selling guns that appeal to older shooters like me. We older shooters of the Boomer generation are a "dying breed".
So, I say, give the younger folks what they want and keep the American pro-2nd-Amendment gun-culture alive.
JMO...
If it sells more guns - and thereby increases the number of gun-owning, pro-2nd-Amendment Americans - then I'm all for it.
The more gun owners we have on our side, the harder it will be for the anti-gun zealots to take away our 2nd Amendment rights.
I prefer beautiful wood and blued steel. But if flat black plastic-fantastic guns are what the majority of the gun-buying public wants, then I say, make 'em, market 'em, and sell 'em. Give the next generation of gun owners what they want.
I can't see a downside to introducing and selling more guns that appeal to the younger folks, even if it means that the gun manufacturers are less focused on marketing and selling guns that appeal to older shooters like me. We older shooters of the Boomer generation are a "dying breed".
So, I say, give the younger folks what they want and keep the American pro-2nd-Amendment gun-culture alive.
JMO...
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I have always wondered what makes a gun, or anything related to shooting, "tactical". I mean, is it color, like black or FDE, or something as simple as, "Hey, I modified this gun and now I am going to mark it tactical!"
When it first came about as a common description, I too am ashamed to say, bought into it. Bought a pair of shoelaces with tactical aglets(the plastic tubing on each end of the lace) on them. I thought it was a great deal, only about 5 times what the others cost, but they were tactical!! Can't say for sure that made any difference, but then again, can't say for sure that it didn't!......
When it first came about as a common description, I too am ashamed to say, bought into it. Bought a pair of shoelaces with tactical aglets(the plastic tubing on each end of the lace) on them. I thought it was a great deal, only about 5 times what the others cost, but they were tactical!! Can't say for sure that made any difference, but then again, can't say for sure that it didn't!......
I'm not sure what you're looking for in a "tactical shoelace" but I can tell you that I use Sierra Bootlaces in all my shoes. I don't know if they qualify as Tactical but I have one pair of boots that is 17 years old and the Sierra laces in them are 15 years old and they're still going strong. I put them in my work boots. I put them in my hiking boots.
According to the manufacturer they are guaranteed to outlast your boots. I've never had a pair break, and They've at least save me the price of replacements
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I was wondering why "Service Grade" hasn't made the list of tactikool buzzwords, but Winchester has trademarked the term so that other manufacturers can't use it.
BTW, I've shot a whole bunch of Service Grade .45 acp ammo, and it's really good.
BTW, I've shot a whole bunch of Service Grade .45 acp ammo, and it's really good.
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Guess it didn't come across well....I was being sarcastic. It seems that anything you put the word "tactical" on, all of a sudden becomes more expensive......
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I was wondering why "Service Grade" hasn't made the list of tactikool buzzwords, but Winchester has trademarked the term so that other manufacturers can't use it.
BTW, I've shot a whole bunch of Service Grade .45 acp ammo, and it's really good.
I seldom shoot anything but my own cast bullet handloads in all my handguns, but just bought some of the "Service Grade" Winchester. I haven't fired any of it yet. I assumed that all 230 grain ball ammo is about the same as far as velocity and accuracy. Any comments from those of you who have used a variety of such ammo? Have you seen a difference?
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I don't recall when it happened, but maybe back around GWI, someone parodied "tactical" with "Tactical Timmy". An action figure decked out in all the latest and greatest "tacticool/tactikewl" gear.
Some of it goes back to when the first SWAT teams were being formed. They got much of their training from military special operations folks and/or some of the sources for the military training. Rappelling seemed to be a big deal, so people got sent off to climbing schools to learn how to rappel/be instructors.
One of the first things they learned was that jeans/chinos/many uniforms weren't good pants for the purpose. The climbing instructors were wearing specially designed climbing pants (Royal Robbins Adventure Clothing), so they went out and bought some. Naturally, when they went home, the new clothes became the badge of the "high speed low drag operator". (And, was still more comfortable for active use than a lot of other clothes.)
A trend was born, a market was created, 5.11 recognized it and bought Royal Robbins out and the rest is history. And profits.
Some of it goes back to when the first SWAT teams were being formed. They got much of their training from military special operations folks and/or some of the sources for the military training. Rappelling seemed to be a big deal, so people got sent off to climbing schools to learn how to rappel/be instructors.
One of the first things they learned was that jeans/chinos/many uniforms weren't good pants for the purpose. The climbing instructors were wearing specially designed climbing pants (Royal Robbins Adventure Clothing), so they went out and bought some. Naturally, when they went home, the new clothes became the badge of the "high speed low drag operator". (And, was still more comfortable for active use than a lot of other clothes.)
A trend was born, a market was created, 5.11 recognized it and bought Royal Robbins out and the rest is history. And profits.
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Who or what is 5.11? Is that tactical lingo?
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Here's my question. When watching hunting/gun shows on TV there are a ton of firearm commercials. They usually show a guy dressed in full military garb of some sort of police SWAT uniform. The guy is moving through an urban wasteland with his AR mounted to his shoulder or his fantastic plastic handgun at the ready. Who exactly are they marketing this too ? Last I knew the police dept and military supplied your firearms. I guess it's geared towards the Wanna Be's
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Yes, I'm pretty ignorant of tactical. Is that a bad thing?
I have a tactical model 10. It's black. Ish. lol.
Probably do to my age but I avid anything with a tactical marketing but I my have some old camo hunting pants with cargo pockets that some my promote as say are tactical today but some of those pants are at least 30 years old .
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5.11 is NOW an apparel company. Back then, they sold synthetic duty gear: holsters, belts, gadget carriers etc, usually made overseas. Reality was far removed from the image they initially claimed.
Bald1- look up "mall ninja" to define the market segment you refer to.
The best definition of "tactics"-that I can present here-is applying common sense and risk management to an adverse situation.
Bald1- look up "mall ninja" to define the market segment you refer to.
The best definition of "tactics"-that I can present here-is applying common sense and risk management to an adverse situation.
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Will just take the side benefits of what some call "tacticool"
Am grateful for the options of:
easily adjusted length of pull that allows a rifle to be fit, without permanently sawing off the stock and custom fitting a recoil pad.
plastic pistol grips that allow easily adjustment to trigger by swapping out grips
threaded barrels that allow easily attaching muzzle device
rifles with detachable magazines
sections of cheese grating that you can easily attach scope, while adjusting for eye relief.
and yeas, am starting to sell of my blued steel and walnut levers for advantages of the newer stainless offerings that don't need as much attention.
Am grateful for the options of:
easily adjusted length of pull that allows a rifle to be fit, without permanently sawing off the stock and custom fitting a recoil pad.
plastic pistol grips that allow easily adjustment to trigger by swapping out grips
threaded barrels that allow easily attaching muzzle device
rifles with detachable magazines
sections of cheese grating that you can easily attach scope, while adjusting for eye relief.
and yeas, am starting to sell of my blued steel and walnut levers for advantages of the newer stainless offerings that don't need as much attention.
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I have a Tactical marked mag for my 10/22. I bought it around 20 years ago before anyone made a "reliable" 25 round mag for them.
I think it was around $100 back then.
From their website.
"Our TI25 Machined Aluminum Magazine is the toughest, most durable Ruger 10/22 magazine on the market without exception. The 2 body halves are MACHINED one at a time out of solid T6 aircraft aluminum bar with the same precision and tolerances as space and defense and aircraft parts. We start off with 3 POUNDS OF SOLID AIRCRAFT ALUMINUM BAR and high speed CNC machine for over an hour to wind up with a complete mag body that now weighs only a little more than 8 ounces! Each part has to pass our exacting quality control examination to ensure its precise dimensions. The result is you wind up with an aircraft quality part that some would consider an "over kill" for a 10/22, while others of us consider it exactly what we've been looking for... Our TI25 Machined Aluminum magazines are designed to stand up to hard use. Don't settle for less!"
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I think it was around $100 back then.
From their website.
"Our TI25 Machined Aluminum Magazine is the toughest, most durable Ruger 10/22 magazine on the market without exception. The 2 body halves are MACHINED one at a time out of solid T6 aircraft aluminum bar with the same precision and tolerances as space and defense and aircraft parts. We start off with 3 POUNDS OF SOLID AIRCRAFT ALUMINUM BAR and high speed CNC machine for over an hour to wind up with a complete mag body that now weighs only a little more than 8 ounces! Each part has to pass our exacting quality control examination to ensure its precise dimensions. The result is you wind up with an aircraft quality part that some would consider an "over kill" for a 10/22, while others of us consider it exactly what we've been looking for... Our TI25 Machined Aluminum magazines are designed to stand up to hard use. Don't settle for less!"
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And only available in countries that spell color with a U.
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