Is "Leadless" Ammo also thought of as 'soft point' ammo?

[SFsc616171]

Dear Readers,

With the manufacturing of what is now called "leadless ammunition", or, "enclosed base" ammunition, can these bullet designs also be considered as a form of a 'soft point' bullet, as the nose of the bullet does have an exposed nose of lead, not a jacket of lead?

I supply two links for an example:

Classic Hi Power

Scan down the page to the given picture of the pistol and target.

Here is one more for you:

9mm Ammo For Sale - 115 gr FNEB- leadless - Remington UMC Ammunition In Stock - 50 Rounds

Thank you for your answers.

 

[Erich]

You should consider them anything you'd like, but I have never seen anything that suggests these were designed in such a way as to encourage expansion of the exposed lead (which was the point of the SP rounds in the '70s). I'm sitting here looking at a round of "UMC LeadLess 9mm Luger 124 gr FNEB," and it doesn't look like it would be something I'd count on to expand.

not a jacket of lead?

Huh?

 

[murphydog]

The intent is to have minimal aerosolized lead with firing, not expansion, a good idea with indoor ranges.

 

[CTG_COLLECTOR]

In the strictest sense of bullet design, yes, it is a JSP. So is the Winchester WinClean, as both have exposed cores at the meplat of the bullet.

But keep in mind that Rem's FNEB and Win's WinClean are designed for target/plinking use and not for SD.

 

[Doug M.]

I believe they also are lead free in the primer, which is also part of the same effort to reduce lead pollution on a heavily used or indoor range. Instructors and others who spend a lot of time in such places are exposed to a lot of lead - one of our academy staff was ordered off the range for a long period at one time - like 6 months or a year. I don't recall now.

 

[SFsc616171]

re: is leadless ammo ...

I placed the query for the following reasons:

1. At "twenty bucks for twenty bullets that might fail at the wrong Murphy moment".

2. With the last "in-country" lead smelter having closed its facility, thanks to the QIC in Washington, D.C., one has to explore all the possible options available, since, again, "at twenty bucks for twenty bullets", one cannot explore total copper, either.

3. The present ammunition "shortage", created, IMHO, by the QIC's administration, solely, as a 'back door attempt' to disarm all law-abiding Americans, again, one needs to explore options, including, as they say, using-only-as-last-available FMJ-TC's vs. BG's.

I have seen the Federal 95 grain JSP's for 9mm, used by both SAS and SBS, and they do have a similarity to the leadless ammunition, which they state was designed for 'urban usage'.