Is this a triple lock?

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What exactly is this thing? I'm pretty sure this is the one I'm going to draw next but I'm not even sure what to call it. I think it's a HE triple lock .44. But would like clarification from you experts....

And by the way MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!!

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The photo of the right side does not show the separate yoke locking point, so if it is an original .44 Special it is either a 3rd model, or a 2nd model with a 3rd model barrel (the shroud will have a matching SN if it is a 3rd). The barrel has been cut to about 3.5" also.
 
That name on the side has a ring to it. Any idea who Jess Sweeten was?


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NO---BUT------

murphydog said:
The photo of the right side does not show the separate yoke locking point, so if it is an original .44 Special it is either a 3rd model, or a 2nd model with a 3rd model barrel (the shroud will have a matching SN if it is a 3rd). The barrel has been cut to about 3.5" also.
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What he said---more or less----

But all that said, there's no question as to whether you can draw it----you can!!

Ralph Tremaine
 
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As already noted, it does not have the third lock. Besides that, it says .38 S&W Special on the right side of the barrel. I'm thinking it is a .38/44 Heavy Duty with a chopped barrel and an aftermarket nickel finish.

NEVER MIND! I just got out the magnifying glass (it is hell to get old). It says .44 S&W Special. So, probably a Third Model with a chopped barrel and aftermarket nickel. Sorry!
 
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Love me some old, well-worn stags!

Yep, I'd identify it as a third model, but if you are drawing it, all you have to do is put in the front locking lug where it sticks through the shroud on the right hand side, and it's a first model (triple lock.) It's called "artistic license." BTW, what I can see of the barrel markings look pretty well centered on the right hand side of the barrel, but on my monitor I can't make out the left... maybe a bit far forward, indicating a shortened barrel. What about the markings on top of the barrel... are they partially obscured by the front sight base?

Anyway, it's an interesting example of a large frame S&W and should be a worthy subject for one of your drawings, even better it would be a worthy subject for some quality time at the range or in the field.

Regards,
Froggie
 
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what I can see of the barrel markings look pretty well centered on the right hand side of the barrel, but on my monitor I can't make out the left... maybe a bit far forward, indicating a shortened barrel.
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The S in "Smith" is gone on the left side of the barrel. It has definitely been shortened.
 
Green Frog said:
Love me some old, well-worn stags!

Yep, I'd identify it as a third model, but if you are drawing it, all you have to do is put in the front locking lug where it sticks through the shroud on the right hand side, and it's a first model (triple lock.) It's called "artistic license." BTW, what I can see of the barrel markings look pretty well centered on the right hand side of the barrel, but on my monitor I can't make out the left... maybe a bit far forward, indicating a shortened barrel. What about the markings on top of the barrel... are they partially obscured by the front sight base?

Anyway, it's an interesting example of a large frame S&W and should be a worthy subject for one of your drawings, even better it would be a worthy subject for some quality time at the range or in the field.

Regards,
Froggie
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There is a slight difference in the ejector shroud. A TL has an additional pin and the ejector rod plunger is flat, not a round pin. Also, the left side of a TL recoil shield has no divot, as the center rod is sprung forward, not rearward.
 
Cool gun.

[ame]https://www.amazon.com/Trail-Never-Cold-Sheriff-Sweeten/dp/0964881918[/ame]
 
Duh. I should've known that I'd see the locking point on the opposite side of the shroud.

So it's basically a Hand Ejector .44, right? I can see it marked .44 on the barrel. And I think the barrel has been cut down too because of how the lettering is on the one side. Part of Smith is cut off I think it is.

It's not my gun. I just found the pictures googling and I felt like it was a very cool gun that is calling me. I like the look of it and the details.

I may still change my mind about this one, but I think I'm getting close to starting one. But there are so many beautiful smiths to choose from. Part of the problem is finding a pic of one. There a lot of good guns with lousy pics of them. And I usually don't delve into the ones with lousy pics. One time I drew a gun from looking at several examples of it. But usually I pick one picture and draw what I see.

I really want to draw a 3" HB model 10 blued or parked and I want to do a 36 pretty badly too. And a few others. I have some really good pics of some 38/44's. Pristine examples too.
 
I'm pretty sure it's a 3rd model with a shortened barrel, definitely not a TL.
Here are a couple of photos of my TL and 3rd for comparison..
 

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The "MADE IN U.S.A." would be an immediate clue that this is not a Triple Lock, even before you consider anything else, as that was stamped on firearms produced 1922 and later.
 
I would not worry about the triple lock aspect of the revolver. If you can document it to Jess Sweeten, you have a major find. He was a legendary Texas sheriff and a really good marksman. I believe you may have a real treasure on your hands.
 
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