is this stolen valor?

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company i work for goes thru temps like a hot knife thru butter,they come and go so much we dont even learn their names,well last night we got one that made me laugh all night.a few of us are vets and we sit together at lunch and breaks and shoot the breeze,well this new guy hears us and decides to join in, starts by telling about his army experience's, tells us when he joined up he got to choose what unit he wanted because his ggg-grandfather was a general in the civil war and later died fighting indians,well this got my interest and i had to ask,"wow who was your ancestor",and without missing a beat he replyed,George A Custer,well i bout spewed coffee everywhere as everyone else was ohh-ing and ah-ing,as he left break room one coworker asked me what the heck was so funny about him being related to GAC,so i told him, the custers had no children
 
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Hate to get technical, I believe there was a book title something like "Son of morning star" that said he had a indian mistress that had a son by him.
I have no idea if it was truth, fiction or just rumor. I know that him and his wife libby didnt have children.

Kind of reminds me of the story of some general that retired and wanted to keep his orderly. Told him he wanted to keep things just like when they were active. The first morning the orderly came in and woke the general up, slapped the generals wife on the butt and said its back to the village for you baby!
 
Hate to get technical, I believe there was a book title something like "Son of morning star" that said he had a indian mistress that had a son by him.
I have no idea if it was truth, fiction or just rumor. I know that him and his wife libby didnt have children.

Kind of reminds me of the story of some general that retired and wanted to keep his orderly. Told him he wanted to keep things just like when they were active. The first morning the orderly came in and woke the general up, slapped the generals wife on the butt and said its back to the village for you baby!

I'm sorry, but unless Libby Custer was barren, I couldn't think of any other woman I would like to father a child with!
 
Ancestor can be a slippery term.

"ggg-Grandfather" is specific enough that he'd really have to be a direct descendant for his story not to be bullfeathers, but I've many times run into people who talk about "ancestors" that were relatives but not directly in their line of descent.

Case in point from my own family; my paternal grandmother swore up and down that Admiral Sir Henry Morgan was an ancestor of ours. But the man famously had no children.

Turns out we're related via Henry's brother, Charles. So he's a "relative" but not precisely an "ancestor."
 
I would have said, "yeah, well my ggggrandfather was the Indian that killed him.

Oh, I do wish you had had the chance to do that! :D:D

For some odd reason his story reminds me of a scene from a play which strangely enough was never performed. A French physician arrives home as dawn is breaking, and his wife asks him, "Was it a difficult delivery, dear?" He answers, "Yes, but it was all worth it. You see, the baby's name was...Victor Hugo."
 
Hate to get technical, I believe there was a book title something like "Son of morning star" that said he had a indian mistress that had a son by him.
I have no idea if it was truth, fiction or just rumor. I know that him and his wife libby didnt have children.

Kind of reminds me of the story of some general that retired and wanted to keep his orderly. Told him he wanted to keep things just like when they were active. The first morning the orderly came in and woke the general up, slapped the generals wife on the butt and said its back to the village for you baby!
Don't nobody mention this to that clown. I get enough people coming up to me and telling me they're 1/16 Cherokee. They're usually blond and blue eyed and it's always Cherokee.
Them Cherokees musta been one heck of a busy tribe. Now I do know some people of Cherokee descent but they look it despite having very light skin.
 
Don't nobody mention this to that clown. I get enough people coming up to me and telling me they're 1/16 Cherokee. They're usually blond and blue eyed and it's always Cherokee.
Them Cherokees musta been one heck of a busy tribe. Now I do know some people of Cherokee descent but they look it despite having very light skin.

Must have been one of them Scandinavian Cherokee's then. :rolleyes:
 
I seem to remember reading that the reason that the Custers had no children was that George had an STD and either it or the cure sterilized either him or his wife.

I served with a few (non direct) Custer descendents in the Army and I've met a few here in Colorado Springs and one thing I've noticed is that they seem to take great pride in the fact that they are Custers and they seem to have had it drilled into their heads from a very early age that they have a family name and tradition to live up to.

On a somewhat related note I'll share this story

I used to work for a medical device manufacture in Monument Colorado. There was a woman who worked in the packaging department, that claimed that she had inoperable brain cancer for about 5 years. She also claimed to be the only child of the man who invented single side band radios (not even sure if that's a real thing).

She also claimed that Hyman Rickover was so impressed with her father's service that he (Admiral Rickover) arranged for the Navy to send her to college to be a communications spook, she claimed that the "brain cancer" was the result of her being around the communications equipment.
Then she stated that after college she was direct commissioned into the California National Guard as a Major and not just any National Guard unit , it was a super secret unit whose sole duty was to go anywhere in the World on 6 hours notice to find and rescue American POWs from Viet Nam.
(But only on one weekend a month )

By this time I'm biting my tongue to keep from laughing in her face and she goes onto tell me that when the brain cancer forced her out of the Guard her duties were so secret that even medically retiring would compromise them so she had to take a general discharge.
 
Hey smoke, I have never been to Monument Colorado, but I have a brother in law who was chief of police there quite a few years ago. Is that about a one to three man department? He later worked for one of the towns next to colorado springs. Retired now.
 
You should have told you your grandgreat third grandaddy on your mothers side was killed with Custer. Then tried to avenge his death with Custers relations.
Custer murdered his men.

Do Great Great Uncles count for anything? Cause my wife's sure helped the Yankees when the War here in Tennessee.... he was a Confederate General :mad:
 
Cherokees

Don't nobody mention this to that clown. I get enough people coming up to me and telling me they're 1/16 Cherokee. They're usually blond and blue eyed and it's always Cherokee.
Them Cherokees musta been one heck of a busy tribe. Now I do know some people of Cherokee descent but they look it despite having very light skin.

We make nice SUV's too. By the way did I mention I was 1/10,000 (on my step mothers side)
 
Don't nobody mention this to that clown. I get enough people coming up to me and telling me they're 1/16 Cherokee. They're usually blond and blue eyed and it's always Cherokee.
Them Cherokees musta been one heck of a busy tribe. Now I do know some people of Cherokee descent but they look it despite having very light skin.
I'm not Cherokee but I did spend the night in Oklahoma once in a Holiday Inn Express, so don't hesitate to ask anything you need to know about them.....either me or George's decendant will come up with something for ya.
 
Interesting that claiming descent from Custer-whose last battle marked him as a true incompetent-has a cachet, while claiming descent from a truly successful general-say Winfield Scott, or Sheridan or Sherman or Joshua Chamberlain-does not. Likewise being able to claim American Indian descent has a cachet to it. A little racist, no ? The question I always ask of anyone claiming such ancestry is "Are you registered ?"
What the OP described is not "Stolen Valor" but "Tall Tales", and not terribly convincing ones at that.
 

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