Is this too Savage® for the genteel folks on this Forum?
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hkcavalier
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I think all of us can appreciate a superior design that, unfortunately for us, is no longer cost effective/competitive to produce.
One in .358 is on my "buy on sight" list, though a really clean .250-3000 would be tough to pass up too.
One in .358 is on my "buy on sight" list, though a really clean .250-3000 would be tough to pass up too.
vonn
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One of my favorites! Looks nice!
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bushmaster1313
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The above is .300 Savage
I suspect that I too would be interested in a 250 Savage
(Please note -- I am NOT looking to sell or trade}
DWalt
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"One in .358 is on my "buy on sight" list"
You and a lot of others. I don't remember the last time I saw any rifle chambered in .358 Win. I'm sure they exist, but those for sale don't last long.
Regarding the .300 Savage, brass is available, but I make my own by FL resizing .308 Win (or 7.62 NATO) brass in a .300 die and trimming to length. One of the easiest case forming jobs ever.
You and a lot of others. I don't remember the last time I saw any rifle chambered in .358 Win. I'm sure they exist, but those for sale don't last long.
Regarding the .300 Savage, brass is available, but I make my own by FL resizing .308 Win (or 7.62 NATO) brass in a .300 die and trimming to length. One of the easiest case forming jobs ever.
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shouldazagged
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I've wanted one of those for many, many years.
It's just as well I can't hunt anymore and have no money.
It's just as well I can't hunt anymore and have no money.
Brian in Oregon
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Nice gun and nice period scope.
Need to add a Savage 1899 or 99 to my lever gun collection. Don't know if I want the quintessential 99 in 300 Savage, or something more useful to me like 22-250 or 243. Probably will boil down to whatever turns up when there's money burning a hole in my pocket.
Need to add a Savage 1899 or 99 to my lever gun collection. Don't know if I want the quintessential 99 in 300 Savage, or something more useful to me like 22-250 or 243. Probably will boil down to whatever turns up when there's money burning a hole in my pocket.
That's a very nice Savage 99!
I have one just like it with the same scope set-up, along with a G in 300 and a F in 243. My first hunting rifle was an EG with a Weaver. Traded it off for a Sako 300 mag. Don't have that one anymore either. Really regret not having both. Since then I mostly buy and don't trade or sell.
I have one just like it with the same scope set-up, along with a G in 300 and a F in 243. My first hunting rifle was an EG with a Weaver. Traded it off for a Sako 300 mag. Don't have that one anymore either. Really regret not having both. Since then I mostly buy and don't trade or sell.
bentcam
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250-3000
picked up in Calf. 1968. k4 weaver, the stocks were already changed and feel better than any 99 i have ever shot. has been a very good rifle, the wife and my son took their first deer with it and i taken more than a few. i'm told it's odd that is a 250-3000 but only has a 20 inch barrel. jim
picked up in Calf. 1968. k4 weaver, the stocks were already changed and feel better than any 99 i have ever shot. has been a very good rifle, the wife and my son took their first deer with it and i taken more than a few. i'm told it's odd that is a 250-3000 but only has a 20 inch barrel. jim
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DWalt
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You don't give up much ballistic advantage by using a .300 Savage vs. a .308 or .30-'06. But there's just not much point in buying a .300 Savage rifle if you can get one in .308.
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model70hunter
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This is rifle that was not common where I grew up but then legal deer hunting did not start in MO until the late 40's or early 50's. There was no long term hunting like the North East area.
I saw a few in pawn shops there and more after I moved to a mre populous area with gun shows. I ended up buying a rough older one in 300 Savage. It was heavy and a mile long. Someone else wanted it and I let it go.
I think a short BBL 99 in 30 cal would be a neat deer rifle.
I saw a few in pawn shops there and more after I moved to a mre populous area with gun shows. I ended up buying a rough older one in 300 Savage. It was heavy and a mile long. Someone else wanted it and I let it go.
I think a short BBL 99 in 30 cal would be a neat deer rifle.
Savage 99s are still as common as mud in Pennsylvania. They were a mainstay in many deer camps in the pre and post WWII era along with the model 94 Winchester and a myriad of bolt action rifles. Their big advantage over the 94 was in the ability to mount a scope on them without being off set.
My best friend in HS has a take down model in 300 Savage, a hand-me-down from his grandfather. When we went to college together at PSU in the '70s he kept it up at my parents place to have on hand for deer hunting. Let my little brother use it when he wasn't around. Brother actually shot a grouse out of the air when flushed while driving a patch of laurel. He did it instinctively and spent the rest of the week agonizing over the illegality of the matter because grouse were not in season. But it did impress upon him the handling qualities of the 99. A couple of years ago he finally got one of his own, an F model 300 Savage from the mid '50's.
It was so much fun to shoot that I had to get one of my own.
Both shoot good enough to warrant use in deer season. I'll take blue steel and wood over stainless and plastic any day. But that's just me.
John
My best friend in HS has a take down model in 300 Savage, a hand-me-down from his grandfather. When we went to college together at PSU in the '70s he kept it up at my parents place to have on hand for deer hunting. Let my little brother use it when he wasn't around. Brother actually shot a grouse out of the air when flushed while driving a patch of laurel. He did it instinctively and spent the rest of the week agonizing over the illegality of the matter because grouse were not in season. But it did impress upon him the handling qualities of the 99. A couple of years ago he finally got one of his own, an F model 300 Savage from the mid '50's.
It was so much fun to shoot that I had to get one of my own.
Both shoot good enough to warrant use in deer season. I'll take blue steel and wood over stainless and plastic any day. But that's just me.
John
DWalt
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"But is a 99 by any other caliber still as Savage? "
They are all Savages. The .303 Savage (much like the .30-30), the .22 Savage Hi-Power, and the .250-3000 Savage were also Savage developments made for the basic 1899/99 Savage rifles. The .300 Savage is probably the most versatile of the bunch, and was developed right after WWI as a shortened version of the .30-'06 which could be used in the shorter 99 Savage lever action receiver. The .300 Savage was also the basis for the development of the 7.62mm NATO/.308 Winchester cartridge. In fact, the only significant difference between the cases of the .300 Savage and the .308 is that the .308 case has a longer neck.
They are all Savages. The .303 Savage (much like the .30-30), the .22 Savage Hi-Power, and the .250-3000 Savage were also Savage developments made for the basic 1899/99 Savage rifles. The .300 Savage is probably the most versatile of the bunch, and was developed right after WWI as a shortened version of the .30-'06 which could be used in the shorter 99 Savage lever action receiver. The .300 Savage was also the basis for the development of the 7.62mm NATO/.308 Winchester cartridge. In fact, the only significant difference between the cases of the .300 Savage and the .308 is that the .308 case has a longer neck.
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For old west guns, absolutely. Same for revolvers. And with the exception of a .223 pistol, none of my semi-auto handguns have plastic frames (so far).
Considering getting a stainless steel 30-30 for wet weather here, and putting synthetic stocks on it. But thanks to modern technology, those stocks can be dipped in wood grain film, much like camo stocks are.
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bushmaster1313
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DWalt
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The history of the Savage model 1899/99 rifle is as fascinating as that of any other, and there was a lot of advanced engineering which went into its design. In my opinion, the Savage lever action is fully the equal of any Winchester or Marlin lever action rifle, if not better. As the Savage 99 has been out of production for many years, I suspect that the younger generation knows little, if anything, about them, and that's a shame. The first caliber for it brought to market was the .303 Savage (now obsolete, and no relation to the .303 British), and in its day it was felt by many hunters to be the ultimate rifle and caliber for use on any North American large game. Even though the .303's ballistics are very close to that of the .30-30, it came factory loaded with a 190 grain bullet, heaver than the standard 150 and 170 grain bullets used in the .30-30. This provided somewhat better penetration than the .30-30, making it more deadly on game larger than deer. The only problem with using it today is the lack of factory loaded ammunition. But it's not difficult to form usable cases from .30-30 brass.
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