Is this Victory model box for real?
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Looks like it could be. We'll know for sure if they start showing up every week like the 45 auto boxes did.
Rikkn
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Cool box !!! Out of my price range though
canoeguy
US Veteran
I used to have a photo book marked on my computer that showed a bunch of Victory Models being unpacked in England by some women of the RAF or Royal Army, can't find it now for some reason...
The boxes looked similar, and I have come across cleaning rods packed in the same manner of the one in the Ebay lisitng....
$395 is kind of stout for me, but I have earmarked the listing to see what it goes for.
The boxes looked similar, and I have come across cleaning rods packed in the same manner of the one in the Ebay lisitng....
$395 is kind of stout for me, but I have earmarked the listing to see what it goes for.
opoefc
US Veteran
The box is correct. The cleaning rod came separate and not in the box. They also came in another style box, a craft box, that I think was used to ship the DSC guard guns, as I saw a bunch of Victory Model DSC guns sent to Convair's San Diego B-24 Bomber Plant during WW2, in craft boxes, and after the war were given to the San Diego County Sheriff's Dep't., all in the two piece, unmarked light tan craft boxes, similar to the box shown on page 167 of Pate's book "US Handguns of WW2" to ship Colt Commando revolvers. Ed.
jjones33
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I wonder if those weren't boxes provided by the ordnance dept and not the factory (the two piece boxes).
Being new here I'm not sure how to post pictures. I have a S&W M&P in the box it came in which was shipped from the factory 12/21/41 to the DSC. It is not a Victory, some of the members on another forum called it a Pre Victory M&P. This revolver was shipped to the DSC on the above date, the factory letter gave no further information of the ultimate user.
The box is one piece, "paper hinged" along the back, dark reddish brown in color. On the right end is a "lime green" label and printed "SMITH & WESSON above MILITARY . POLICE above BLUED FOUR INCH above SQUARE BUTT.
Pencilled on the bottom of the box is 891064 which isn't the number on the gun but in the range. Will post pictures when I learn how.
ParadiseRoad
Member
...one of the photos from the ebay item above...
opoefc
US Veteran
Jondar, The "Pre-Victory" you have is in the correct style box for guns shipped to the DSC and S&W distributors in that time frame ( 1941) as they were commercial guns on hand in the factory inventory and used to fill orders until the supply was replaced by the wartime Victory Models. Whether your gun was shipped in that box to the DSC, we may never know, unless you can back trace the gun to where ever the DSC sent the gun, and some how connect the box to a shipment of multiple guns, with a serial number invoice that has your gun & the box's numbers listed. --- Whether the Ordnance Dep't reboxed the guns for a DSC shipment is a good question. I know that the Colt Commando revolvers ( Colt's version of the Victory Model) were shipped in craft boxes and they didn't come from S&W, of course, so the guns could have been repacked. An unecessary step, but you're dealing with government efficiency here! Ed.
Ed, your posting that I quoted above answered (or gave me a clue)to a question I've had since I got the S&W letter (just sneaked in on the $30 fee incidently) which was, if my revolver served its purpose in protecting military installations, factories, etc. then where has it been since the end of WW2? I think it was probably given to some law enforcement agency like the ones you spoke about. My experience with obtaining provenence on firearms has been less than satisfactory so I probably will never know. Jon
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