"It just followed me home..honest!" K-22 1st. *Update*

Originally posted by deadin:
JayCeeNC, same question about the number of screws in your rear sight (don't count the "windage" screw). Your gun appears to fall right on the cusp of the change from 2 to 3.
Also, please reconfirm your serial, 647,630. If your's has a Call Gold bead it may have been a special order as the Gold's seem to have changed to Stainless about 3 years prior. (Or it's just another case of S&W's serial numbers being shipped out of sequence. Usually though, it's "older" numbers with "newer" features, not the other way around. Thanks

The serial number is correct. Rear sight is 2-screw variation. Below are pics of both for your perusal:

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Originally posted by Andy Griffith:
I think the holster is lined with a sheep skin of some type.
A sheep skin lined holster would help protect the finish of the gun. Every time the gun went in or out of the holster, a little lanolin would be deposited on its surface. This is an old idea: It's known from a few archeological finds the some Viking-era sword scabbards were sheep skin lined.
 
John,
Thanks for the recheck and the pictures.
Yours is the earliest one I have logged with the lock screw on the rear sight. Serial # 646,8xx shipped in 6/34 with no lock screw and a stainless bead.
In fact I don't show any Gold beads since late 1931, other than your "fly in the ointment".
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Just goes to show, Don't ever think you've got S&W figured out.
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Originally posted by deadin:
John,
Yours is the earliest one I have logged with the lock screw on the rear sight.
In fact I don't show any Gold beads since late 1931, other than your "fly in the ointment".
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Just goes to show, Don't ever think you've got S&W figured out.

Thanks, Dean. I've never asked Mr. Jinks for a shipping date on this one, as I don't usually waste the bandwidth unless I have a specific reason for asking. Maybe I'll check when he gets back from vacation.
This one is very nice overall, with just a bit of muzzle wear and cylinder turn ring.
 
Originally posted by Andy Griffith:
- seems to be unusual for a holster to be labeled to a particular gun model, isn't it?

Note the gold "K22" marking on the holster.

I don't know the dates where it was common, but HH Heiser used to do that all the time. In that case it was just pen markings on the back of the holster. I've got one marked K22. Its a big brown button holster. Anyone know the dates those were produced?
 
Anyone know the dates those were produced?

I've got a 1939 Stoeger's catalog that shows a "wool lined " holster that is very similar.
It is two toned leather and lined with sheepskin. One difference is that it only has one snap instead of two. Listed as style "U35".
 
Originally posted by Onomea:
I know we were all young once, but what a fool of a kid. The computer will be obsolete in three yeears or so... I am glad the K-22 is with someone who appreciates it.

+1

What kind of computer did the kid get in exchange for a gorgeous pre war K22, an original Colt 1911, and a Winchester 1890 Deluxe? I hope it can stop time or something.
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What a shame. It really drives home the point that we should leave/sell our stuff to someone who has the same passion for it that we do...even if that person is a friend. I would rather arrange the sale of my stuff at a reasonable price to a good friend who would really cherish it than take the chance of a kid or grandkid who did not appreciate it pawning it to fund their obviously less noble interests.
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N_itis,
Excellent point!
As many of us reach 'upper middle-age', we're faced with the very real prospect of (someday) disposing of a collection.
My wife's instructions are to get the guns to a specified collector/seller, so that they'll find good homes for their next time around.
 
Originally posted by N_itis:

What kind of computer did the kid get in exchange for a gorgeous pre war K22, an original Colt 1911, and a Winchester 1890 Deluxe?

If you go up and read my post earlier, I would guess that the gunshop owner lowballed the kid and he barely got enough to buy a computer. The shop owner was keeping two of them, so the OP here had to pay enough to buy the kid the computer. Then the shop owner just kept the guns with a very low or no cost to them. Its one of the fringe bene's of gunshop work.
 
Originally posted by DHENRY:
As many of us reach 'upper middle-age', we're faced with the very real prospect of (someday) disposing of a collection.

If only David Carroll or Jim Supica were still alive. They both had/have plans that kind of make sure the poor widow doesn't get cheated. Its not fool proof, and neither work for free, but if all widows that can't handle the selling details themselves would use that kind of service, they'd probably be well ahead in the long run.

One problem is that some widows (or other heirs) think that their getting cheated when a gunshop offers them 66% of what the eventual sale will be. But after the seller gets done cleaning, inspecting, photographing, lettering, and then advertising, costs do tend to add up. For some reason, people think they should just be able to turn in all of the old mans guns and receive cash then and there for the amount the guns will eventually bring at retail....a year from now.
 
Jim's name and phone number are posted on the inside of my safe door, and I mentioned this to him in Richmond.
He said he sure hopes he's still alive to handle it(!)
My wife and I have had this conversation many times, and she is very savvy as the realities of wholesale, retail, and the practical need for both.
It does indeed cost a bunch of money to be a (good) firearms dealer.
 
Thought you might get a kick out of this, not quite the holster you have but wool lined. Very nice piece you aquired!
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Update!!!

I just got my letter back from the factory.

It was shipped April 23, 1932 to:
Farwell Ozmun Kirk & Co. in St. Paul MN. The grip adapters did not letter specifically to the gun. It did letter with the steel bead.

Does anyone else have a K-22 lettered to them around the same time? It must have been hard times out there I would suspect, and a K-22 would be an extravagance for even the most hardy hunter of the day. I suppose that whoever bought it the first time must have been well-off for their day. Of course, it is possible it sat around for a long time until people could afford it...

Thought I'd ask for some input...

Why is it I can never find older guns lettered to more "southern" dealers or distributors? I have yet to find a pre-war gun lettering to Georgia, Alabama, North Carolina, etc.- southern state. Why is that? I I live down here! Wasn't there some southern distributors or hardware houses?
 
I know alot of the 1926's letter to Wolf and Klar in Texas.

Don't know specific central Southern destinations, but LEO's had to get them somewhere.
 
Originally posted by Andy Griffith:
Why is it I can never find older guns lettered to more "southern" dealers or distributors? I have yet to find a pre-war gun lettering to Georgia, Alabama, North Carolina, etc.- southern state.

I have pre-war guns I've lettered that were shipped to Birmingham, AL., Ft. Worth, TX., and Louisville, KY.
 
Mine, #6323xx, shipped out 4/8/31 to Bangor, ME.

Regards,

Tam 3
 

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