J Frame Shoulder Rig
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photoman
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Thanks for the update. I hadn't had a chance to check. Any information on delivery time?
mc5aw
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Photoman ... The email response noted both Kydex and leather are in stock.
photoman
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Thanks for the info!
Double-O-Dave
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Here are some I found on line:
Drawstroke Variations - Shoulder Holster
It should be pointed out that Null produces several similar looking inverted shoulder holsters (polymer and leather) that have different draw strokes, and were designed for different uses. As an example, the City Slicker was designed to be worn under a (suit) coat or jacket, and requires a "pull through" type of draw stroke. The City Slicker is very similar in appearance to the SMZ, but the SMZ requires a twisting type of draw stroke, and it was designed to be worn under a pull-over type of shirt or sweater, though it can obviously be worn under a suit coat or jacket as well.
Best of luck,
Dave
bronco45
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Thanks guys, for the link. That city slicker looks pretty cool. Not a SR fan but can see the advantage to an Airweight Centennial in that rig.
As always practice, practice, practice.
As always practice, practice, practice.
Malysh
Member
I've had a Null SKR City Slicker for a number of years. It's a great shoulder holster for an Airweight. It was designed specifically for J frames. Ken doesn't make it for any other model gun.
I have bad news, though. I just spoke to him last week. He advised me he's discontinuing the City Slicker. He says that the newer model J frames and all their variants don't fit the original pattern. If you want one of these I wouldn't waste much time.
The SKR does not come with an ammo pouch on the opposite side. It has a clip for attaching to the pants, or a loop for the belt around the pants. It attached either way.
The SMZ may look like a City Slicker and shares the same materials, but aside from the different release, it is designed to allow the usage of an attached silencer, maybe an added plus for some under very specific circumstances. I don't see where it is any different to conceal wearing any different clothing than the City Slicker. I have one for my Walther PPKs. This model is made for a variety of small handguns.
Null doesn't feel these holsters are designed to wear under shirts, but in my experience a City Slicker or an SMZ will disappear under a lose shirt, especially one that has a pattern such as an Hawaian shirt.
I have bad news, though. I just spoke to him last week. He advised me he's discontinuing the City Slicker. He says that the newer model J frames and all their variants don't fit the original pattern. If you want one of these I wouldn't waste much time.
The SKR does not come with an ammo pouch on the opposite side. It has a clip for attaching to the pants, or a loop for the belt around the pants. It attached either way.
The SMZ may look like a City Slicker and shares the same materials, but aside from the different release, it is designed to allow the usage of an attached silencer, maybe an added plus for some under very specific circumstances. I don't see where it is any different to conceal wearing any different clothing than the City Slicker. I have one for my Walther PPKs. This model is made for a variety of small handguns.
Null doesn't feel these holsters are designed to wear under shirts, but in my experience a City Slicker or an SMZ will disappear under a lose shirt, especially one that has a pattern such as an Hawaian shirt.
Continental Op
Member
Malysh, you got me so worried with that comment, I finally got off my butt and ordered a City Slicker. OK, now no one else order one until we're sure mine has been shipped!
beemerrider
Member
I have the following:
1. Bianchi 16HL Heavier leather and has a double speed-loader pouch. This is fine under a Levis jacket or other medium weight garment, but would be bulky under just a shirt. I don't use it much, as my reasoning is; if I'm going somewhere that I think I need 3 loads for a snubbie, then why not just carry my Ed Brown or Kimber Commander sized .45's in a Lou Allesi should rig. Somebody mentioned this brand above, and I really recommend them for product design, quality of design and workmanship and great customer service.
2. My other snubbie shoulder rig is a Safariland A87, which is a very nice rig, and I carry a speed loader two in my pocket. Very nice quality and pretty light weight.
3. Probably my favorite holster for a 2" Model 10 is an Alfanso K2 upside-down leather shoulder rig. The gun hangs upside-down with the butt facing back, and thus the whole thing hangs very flat on the front side under your garment. They were/are a California company and I believe I saw an ad for their products in a gun magazine in the past couple of years. Very good design, and good quality in my experience. Your gun will come out pretty fast with one of these. Best of Luck in finding the right one for carry.
1. Bianchi 16HL Heavier leather and has a double speed-loader pouch. This is fine under a Levis jacket or other medium weight garment, but would be bulky under just a shirt. I don't use it much, as my reasoning is; if I'm going somewhere that I think I need 3 loads for a snubbie, then why not just carry my Ed Brown or Kimber Commander sized .45's in a Lou Allesi should rig. Somebody mentioned this brand above, and I really recommend them for product design, quality of design and workmanship and great customer service.
2. My other snubbie shoulder rig is a Safariland A87, which is a very nice rig, and I carry a speed loader two in my pocket. Very nice quality and pretty light weight.
3. Probably my favorite holster for a 2" Model 10 is an Alfanso K2 upside-down leather shoulder rig. The gun hangs upside-down with the butt facing back, and thus the whole thing hangs very flat on the front side under your garment. They were/are a California company and I believe I saw an ad for their products in a gun magazine in the past couple of years. Very good design, and good quality in my experience. Your gun will come out pretty fast with one of these. Best of Luck in finding the right one for carry.
Malysh
Member
Haha - it was probably prudent you bought it now. The two rigs, the SKR and the SMZ are quite inexpensive. $60 and $65 If I remember correctly.
Ken didn't say when he was discontinuing the SKR and I didn't ask. This model is the lowest profile shoulder holster on the market. Rigs made with fine quality leather harnesses are more comfortable for extended wear, but they don't conceal well compared to the SKR.
I have to confess I don't use shoulder holsters very often but I find there is ocassionally a situation where I find I need to use one. I have the SKR for J frames, the SMZ for Walther PPKs, a few old Bianchis, and a lightly used ******* rig I bought for next to nothing at a local gunshop years ago. The Galco rig is for SIG pistols but after testing with an unloaded gun I found it fit my Glock 19 perfectly. I could not get the Glock to fall out, nor was there a lot of extra play. My HKs were another story. They would not fit the Galco holster
mc5aw
Member
I spoke with Ken today and discussed my City Slicker order. If I understood correctly, he explained that the City Slicker will accommodate only the pistol it was specifically molded for. The SMZ however, having been designed for a govt. agency, will work with any J-frame model and barrel length. I changed to the SMZ for this flexibility.
BTW ... Ken impressed me as a gracious and knowledgeable man. It was a pleasure speaking with him about his products.
BTW ... Ken impressed me as a gracious and knowledgeable man. It was a pleasure speaking with him about his products.
Continental Op
Member
Ken actually called me today because he needed the code off the back of my credit card to run the transaction. He's a very nice guy and we talked for a few minutes. I asked him about the City Slicker (SKR) being discountinued and he mentioned that there had been so many inquiries about it lately that he was now going to have to think hard about it, though the price would go up if he decided to keep it. He also talked to me about the advantages of the SMZ, which he carries himself, but I decided to stick with the SKR because it seems like a more intuitive draw stroke.
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