Phil, yes he was a big fan of the G30. I also remember seeing pics of him with 3rd gen stainless smith autos.
Jim Cirillo and Jelly Bryce questions
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StakeOut
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I worked with Jimmy Cirillo in the Stake Out Unit.
On occasion I worked a stake out with him but normally I had a different partner.
He was a humorous guy that was a lot of fun to be around.
He was a avid Police Combat Match shooter.He was an excellent shot with his Model 10 issue and K-38 match guns.
He was the go to guy that ordered all the reloading supplies for the NYPD shooting teams.I don't remember how many Star Machines he had in his loading room but it was a lot more than my 2.
Bill Allard and Eddie Kavanagh were other great shots in the unit.
Eddie liked to shoot his 1955 .45 at Camp Perry while the rest of us cherished our accurrized Colt Government models.
So many wonderful memories as I think back about the great men and shooter I've had the pleasure to know,work with and shoot on a team with.
On occasion I worked a stake out with him but normally I had a different partner.
He was a humorous guy that was a lot of fun to be around.
He was a avid Police Combat Match shooter.He was an excellent shot with his Model 10 issue and K-38 match guns.
He was the go to guy that ordered all the reloading supplies for the NYPD shooting teams.I don't remember how many Star Machines he had in his loading room but it was a lot more than my 2.
Bill Allard and Eddie Kavanagh were other great shots in the unit.
Eddie liked to shoot his 1955 .45 at Camp Perry while the rest of us cherished our accurrized Colt Government models.
So many wonderful memories as I think back about the great men and shooter I've had the pleasure to know,work with and shoot on a team with.
Jim Cirillo
I knew Jim Cirillo as he used to visit the DeSantis Holster Company where I worked following retirement. Jim was buddies with the president of DeSantis. My guess is that Gene DeSantis would have given him anything he wanted, free of charge, just for the privilege of having a genuine police combat veteran using his products.
Regarding Jim's K frames, my guess is that one of them was his duty weapon before he entered the stakeout squad. I mentioned in another thread that dealers back then offered retiring cops $20.00 for the 4" model 10s regardless of condition. There was no shortage of Model 10s and Jim may have received one from a retiring co-worker.
I knew Jim Cirillo as he used to visit the DeSantis Holster Company where I worked following retirement. Jim was buddies with the president of DeSantis. My guess is that Gene DeSantis would have given him anything he wanted, free of charge, just for the privilege of having a genuine police combat veteran using his products.
Regarding Jim's K frames, my guess is that one of them was his duty weapon before he entered the stakeout squad. I mentioned in another thread that dealers back then offered retiring cops $20.00 for the 4" model 10s regardless of condition. There was no shortage of Model 10s and Jim may have received one from a retiring co-worker.
StakeOut
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I don't remember when Jim joined the NYPD but it was before me.
My issued weapon in early 1966 was a heavy barrel Model 10 that cost me about $45 from the Police Equipment Bureau.
I loved shooting that gun.
I had a custom made fixed bar rear sight placed in a milled slot to raise the impact point for my eyes.
No duty weapon was allowed that had adjustable sights so no K-38
On Stake Outs we carried any backups we wanted but had to have our issued service weapon also.
The Ithaca Model 37 12 gauge was the other standard SOU weapon.
On some stake outs an M1 Carbine was the extra fire power
I was in the SOU from it's inception to 1 month before it's demise.
My issued weapon in early 1966 was a heavy barrel Model 10 that cost me about $45 from the Police Equipment Bureau.
I loved shooting that gun.
I had a custom made fixed bar rear sight placed in a milled slot to raise the impact point for my eyes.
No duty weapon was allowed that had adjustable sights so no K-38
On Stake Outs we carried any backups we wanted but had to have our issued service weapon also.
The Ithaca Model 37 12 gauge was the other standard SOU weapon.
On some stake outs an M1 Carbine was the extra fire power
I was in the SOU from it's inception to 1 month before it's demise.
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Hey StakeOut: Thank you. I have been trying for a long time to find out
what kind of holster Jim used on the Stakeout Unit. I have another thread
here in Gun Leather and Carry Gear simply called: Jim Cirillo Holster.
If you will I would appreciate it if you could read it and let me know what
you think or recall.
what kind of holster Jim used on the Stakeout Unit. I have another thread
here in Gun Leather and Carry Gear simply called: Jim Cirillo Holster.
If you will I would appreciate it if you could read it and let me know what
you think or recall.
StakeOut
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A funny story I remember about Jimmy involved his son Jim Jr.
The team shot a Police Combat Match one day I believe was in Jackson N.J.in the very early 70s.We each drove our own cars there and back home.
Jimmy took his then 4~6 year old son to the match in his beat up VW.
When he arrived home his wife Mildred asked where's Jimmy Jr.
Jim forgot him at the range and went home alone.
Luckily,another team member Frank May,brought the boy home after seeing him alone after the shoot.
The team shot a Police Combat Match one day I believe was in Jackson N.J.in the very early 70s.We each drove our own cars there and back home.
Jimmy took his then 4~6 year old son to the match in his beat up VW.
When he arrived home his wife Mildred asked where's Jimmy Jr.
Jim forgot him at the range and went home alone.
Luckily,another team member Frank May,brought the boy home after seeing him alone after the shoot.
StakeOut
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I'll be 73 in two weeks so my memory may be a bit fuzzy on some things from the 60s and 70s but I'll look.If you can supply a link to the thread I'd greatly appreciate it.
I remember I used some custom holsters made by Seventrees that were in midtown Manhattan
BTW,I don't recall ever seeing Jim Cirillo with an automatic.
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StakeOut I'm 81 and bet my memory is worse than yours. I'm not smart
enough to supply a link? But the Thread Jim Cirillo holster is on the same
1st page that this thread is on except it's about the 40th thread down.
enough to supply a link? But the Thread Jim Cirillo holster is on the same
1st page that this thread is on except it's about the 40th thread down.
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I recently read a book entitled "Jim Cirrilo's Tales of The Stakeout Squad", written by Paul Kirchner, who had interviewed JC many times as well as many of his associates. The book is full of interesting stories, told in a New Yawk accent; with plenty of humor as well as gallows humor. Stories of crooks peeing their pants at the sound of a shotgun firing, etc. I could not put it down.
Spoiler: Late in life, JC became a Glock man!
Spoiler: Late in life, JC became a Glock man!
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Thanks to all of you for supplying these wonderful stories & "insider" accounts!
StakeOut
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That is just so hard to believe.
Got more Jimmy Cirillo stories somewhere in my frontal lobe.
I just picked up a 15-6 that's in shooter condition.While it's not my beloved original Model 10 it's just as much fun to shoot.
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federali Thanks for the tip about Gene DeSantis being friends with Jim
Cirillo. I sent an email to Gene and he responded. Don't know yet if
he will be able to confirm the holster or not. Obviously Jim probably had
a lot of holsters.
Cirillo. I sent an email to Gene and he responded. Don't know yet if
he will be able to confirm the holster or not. Obviously Jim probably had
a lot of holsters.
StakeOut
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Whether the dime and chewing gum was fact or book writer's fiction I don't know but having a Cobra in a pocket,a Chief in an ankle holster,a holstered Model 10 on the left side and a K-38 on the right side is very true.
Jimmy always took his garbage out at night with a short barrel in his pocket and once he had to use it.That habit may have saved him from serious harm.
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I met Bill Allard about 4 or 5 years ago at the NYC FBI range at Ft. Dix. He was carrying his Combat Commander that was built by the armorer from the Ohio National Guard. He could still out shoot just about everyone there.
I met Bill Allard about 4 or 5 years ago at the NYC FBI range at Ft. Dix. He was carrying his Combat Commander that was built by the armorer from the Ohio National Guard. He could still out shoot just about everyone there.
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StakeOut
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I wish I had Bill's email so I could renew a friendship.
I probably did more things outside of work with Bill than Jimmy Cirillo.We first met while working in traffic around Shea Stadium,the former home of the Mets.
Speaking of Jimmy again I remember the many times he'd call and get me out of bed way before the sun came up on rainy days to hunt pheasants with .410 on Staten Island near the garbage dump in Great Kills Park.On rainy days there were far fewer bird watchers and dog walkers.
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Private message me. I have an e-mail and phone number for Bill. He was selling Stake Out challenge coins also when he was at Ft. Dix. He also had a consulting business.
Private message me. I have an e-mail and phone number for Bill. He was selling Stake Out challenge coins also when he was at Ft. Dix. He also had a consulting business.
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Are there any pictures of Mr. Cirillo's m10?
Stakeout, thanks for the info on Mr. Cirillo. I became a firearms instructor in '09 and quickly began reading any firearms/police combat books I could get my hands on. Luckily I stumbled onto Jim's books because I've read them numerous times now.
I'm now a State Trooper and collect patches as a hobby. You wouldn't happen to have any Stakeout Patches like your profile picture or the old SOU Trash can patch?
Again thanks for all the info.
I'm now a State Trooper and collect patches as a hobby. You wouldn't happen to have any Stakeout Patches like your profile picture or the old SOU Trash can patch?
Again thanks for all the info.
StakeOut
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I'm sorry I don't have any,not even for myself.
The only person I can think of that might have Stake Out Unit patches is Bill Allard.I don't presently have his contact info.
The patch in my avatar I believe is still in use by the NYPD Emergency Service Unit.
The Stake Out Unit was under the Special Operations Command and the Emergency Service Unit
About 23 years ago I took a job teaching at a university in Korea that was only planned to be 1~2 years;I stayed for a full 20.Before departing I sold all my guns,gave away a lot of gear and memorabilia.No guns allowed for foreigners in Korea.Very few Koreans are allowed also.Left with only one suitcase.
Today is my 73rd birthday.Where have all the years gone?
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