Jovino Gun Shop - Aussie Cop Photo

[Moo Moo]

A mate of mine (ex-work colleague and current New South Wales Police Officer) is currently in New York City doing research for History Doctorate thesis (on NYPD and the Black Liberation Army; number of shootings in the 1970s). He just forwarded me this photo of himself outside John Jovino's shop. I thought you guys might get a kick out of it.

I believe he's looking for a picture of S&W NYPD marked revolver to go on the cover of his thesis. If anyone has a such a picture that they would not mind sharing, I will pass it onto him.

 

[Onomea]

Man, your mate should try to find one of our forum members, a collector of NYPD revolvers. Have not seen him post for a while, at least not in the Lounge.

What was his name? Valdez? Something with a "V" maybe? Ex-cop, I think... Lived in NYC or nearby. Maybe an FFL.... Anyone?

I'll see if I can find him with the search function, and if I do will post his forum name.

 

[ladder13]

Robert Vivas

 

[Onomea]

Yep. Forum name RM Vivas. Here is what I think may be his most recent post, from 2016: NYPD S&W M60 NY-1 serial numbers

 

[Peak53]

Would love to have seen all the guns going up and down that sidewalk elevator! I have a NYSP, but alas not NYPD.

 

[ladder13]

Man, your mate should try to find one of our forum members, a collector of NYPD revolvers. Have not seen him post for a while, at least not in the Lounge.

What was his name? Valdez? Something with a "V" maybe? Ex-cop, I think... Lived in NYC or nearby. Maybe an FFL.... Anyone?

I'll see if I can find him with the search function, and if I do will post his forum name.

He used to, or may still, live in the lower Hudson Valley in Columbia County.

Index Page

Kind of weird as a Frank Serpico was frequently seen in The Town of Hudson NY, in the same county.

 

[joeb1]

I purchased a few guns from Jovinos. Late 60's early 70's. Wish I still had my model 10 service gun. I DO still have my old off duty. 50 years old last April. Shot it last month. [emoji106][emoji106][emoji631]

 

[shouldazagged]

He looks like a no-nonsense bloke.

Do many Australian police officers have history PhDs? I shouldn't think there would be a lot on any police force, anywhere, though law enforcement might be a nice change from teaching.

 

[Onomea]

Good stuff in that link, Ladder13. Including Robert Vivas's email address. Moo Moo's pal can now follow up if he wants to.

 

[shell627]

I bought a NY-1 3in several years ago that was shipped through Jovinos.I wanted to keep shipping box just because it came from Jovinos somehow it disappeared.

 

[HeyJoe]

i bought a smith and wesson 940 from there in 1993.

 

[Texas Star]

As an Aussie link, Jovino's sold a lot of SMLE .303's in the US that came from Australia.

That nation never adopted the No.4 rifle, so those were all No. 1 MK III and III* models. Some were in very nice condition, I think some about new.

 

[Texas Star]

I purchased a few guns from Jovinos. Late 60's early 70's. Wish I still had my model 10 service gun. I DO still have my old off duty. 50 years old last April. Shot it last month. [emoji106][emoji106][emoji631]

What on EARTH did you DO to that poor gun?

Looks like you spilled acid or blood on it. Did the hammer spur tip break, or was it intentionally shortened for some reason?

Are you going to at least refinish the stocks?

 

[LVSteve]

As an Aussie link, Jovino's sold a lot of SMLE .303's in the US that came from Australia.

That nation never adopted the No.4 rifle, so those were all No. 1 MK III and III* models. Some were in very nice condition, I think some about new.

IIRC Jovino assembled a lot of bitsa rifles from Australian bits and pieces as well as selling complete rifles.

 

[Absalom]

I believe he's looking for a picture of S&W NYPD marked revolver to go on the cover of his thesis. If anyone has a such a picture that they would not mind sharing, I will pass it onto him.

Slim chance, unfortunately.

Since NYPD officers had to purchase their own guns, they were not department-stamped, as they were private, not department property.

Until the early 1950s, they were supposed to be marked with the shield number. I have a 1915 Colt Police Positive so marked.

The only guns marked "New York Police" were several thousand Colt New Police .32 ordered under Commissioner Roosevelt in the 1890s, and a small number of Colt 1903 pistols bought pre-WW I.

I think our member Charles "policerevolvercollector" had one of the Roosevelt Colts, but he doesn't seem to be active on the forum any more.

PS: The third photo, which I just found in my files, shows a Roosevelt Colt; I believe I snipped it from a GB auction. I borrowed the last photo of the Colt 1903 from the Colt forum.

 

[Absalom]

..... doing research for History Doctorate thesis (on NYPD and the Black Liberation Army; number of shootings in the 1970s). ......
I believe he's looking for a picture of S&W NYPD marked revolver to go on the cover of his thesis....

I do have two revolvers that were on duty with NYPD during the time of your friend's interest, but neither one is marked.

 

[BC38]

Sad but it appears some hooligans have vandalized the Jovino sign and broke the trigger and trigger guard off of it...

 

[joeb1]

What on EARTH did you DO to that poor gun?

Looks like you spilled acid or blood on it. Did the hammer spur tip break, or was it intentionally shortened for some reason?

Are you going to at least refinish the stocks?

It was my off duty carry gun for many years. Carried it on duty also. It's old and worn just like me. Still shoots great. I retired in 1981. The hammer spur IS NOT BROKEN. Just a bad photo.

 

[oneounceload]

My dad's revolver (pre model 10) that he used has two serial numbers; one from S&W, the other from NYPD, but there is nothing else saying "NYPD" or similar on it.

 

[Trooper224]

What on EARTH did you DO to that poor gun?

Looks like you spilled acid or blood on it. Did the hammer spur tip break, or was it intentionally shortened for some reason?

Are you going to at least refinish the stocks?

That's what a gun looks like when it's spent a lifetime actually being used as intended, instead of being a safe queen or range baby.