Watching "Goldfinger" today for the umpteenth time--I wonder whatever became of the S&W Model 22 .45 that ***** Galore held on James Bond on Auric's jet.
Just curious...
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Alpo
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Was not a 22. I know IMDB Guns says it was, but it weren't.
4", N-frame, fixed sight, shrouded ejector rod. When the movie came out, the only two guns that fit that description were the 2nd model 44 HE and the 38/44 Heavy Duty.
The 1950, which became the Model 22, did not have a shrouded ejector rod.
The CURRENT Model 22 has a shrouded rod, which is most likely why they say it was a 22. But not back then.
Bond says it was a 45, so they have taken that as gospel. But remember in Dr. No, bad guy with a silenced 1911 fires six rounds, and Bond tells him, "That's a Smith and Wesson, and you've had your six".
Bond-movie screenwriters ain't real up on guns.
Although, according to THE BOOK, the 2nd Model HE 44 was available in 45 Colt (very few) so it coulda been a 45.
Just not a Model 22.
And just now, re-reading THE BOOK, to make sure of my info, it says there were less than a thousand of the 45s, but the way it reads to me, they were all 6 1/2".
4", N-frame, fixed sight, shrouded ejector rod. When the movie came out, the only two guns that fit that description were the 2nd model 44 HE and the 38/44 Heavy Duty.
The 1950, which became the Model 22, did not have a shrouded ejector rod.
The CURRENT Model 22 has a shrouded rod, which is most likely why they say it was a 22. But not back then.
Bond says it was a 45, so they have taken that as gospel. But remember in Dr. No, bad guy with a silenced 1911 fires six rounds, and Bond tells him, "That's a Smith and Wesson, and you've had your six".
Bond-movie screenwriters ain't real up on guns.
Although, according to THE BOOK, the 2nd Model HE 44 was available in 45 Colt (very few) so it coulda been a 45.
Just not a Model 22.
And just now, re-reading THE BOOK, to make sure of my info, it says there were less than a thousand of the 45s, but the way it reads to me, they were all 6 1/2".
Texas Star
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Can't find my copy of the book. Did Fleming even mention *****'s gun by name?
Bond had some sort of Colt .45 in his Bentley, most likely a Govt. Model auto. But the author owned a New Service revolver and may have had it in mind.
I don't recall Bond (or Fleming, really) ever mentioning a S&W .45. He did cite the M-42 Centennial .38 and the Model 27, or meant to. He got the .357 confused with the snub .38 after Boothroyd suggested the pair as a team.
In, "Dr. No" (the book), the bad guys did have Smith & Wessons, "the usual model." That almost certainly meant the M&P/Model 10. The book appeared one year afer S&W began using Model numbers.
Bond had some sort of Colt .45 in his Bentley, most likely a Govt. Model auto. But the author owned a New Service revolver and may have had it in mind.
I don't recall Bond (or Fleming, really) ever mentioning a S&W .45. He did cite the M-42 Centennial .38 and the Model 27, or meant to. He got the .357 confused with the snub .38 after Boothroyd suggested the pair as a team.
In, "Dr. No" (the book), the bad guys did have Smith & Wessons, "the usual model." That almost certainly meant the M&P/Model 10. The book appeared one year afer S&W began using Model numbers.
old bear
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Jim, I think Bond was to have a "long barreled Colt .45" secured somewhere in his Bentley. Sounds as if it would have been a revolver, but with Mr. Fleming one never knows.
The .45 revolver in the movie has been identified as a M-22 and as an old triplelock? As RonJ suggested, whatever revolver was used is now sitting in a prop room somewhere.
The .45 revolver in the movie has been identified as a M-22 and as an old triplelock? As RonJ suggested, whatever revolver was used is now sitting in a prop room somewhere.
Abbynormal
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When I was a kid, the Goldfinger Aston Martin DB5 was at a local mall. A relative worked at the store the car was shown at and I got to sit in the ejection seat!
I do remember a extremely long barrel single action Colt in a tan leather holster hanging from the left side of the dash board. The barrel was really long like a Buntline Colt probably 12-16". Dad called it a "Buntline".
I always thought that a SA Colt was very out of place for James Bond. I've wondered about that for almost 50 years and now this post makes makes sense why it was there.
I hope that helps
I do remember a extremely long barrel single action Colt in a tan leather holster hanging from the left side of the dash board. The barrel was really long like a Buntline Colt probably 12-16". Dad called it a "Buntline".
I always thought that a SA Colt was very out of place for James Bond. I've wondered about that for almost 50 years and now this post makes makes sense why it was there.
I hope that helps
Alpo
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When I first read about a "long-barreled Colt 45", I saw a Single Action Army in my mind. It was so long ago that "Colt 45" meant either an Army gun or a Cowboy gun. 
In one of the "post-Fleming" Bond books, James has a Super Blackhawk stashed under the dash of his car. By the time I read that one, I thought having a single-action for a defensive pistol was pretty dang dumb.
In one of the "post-Fleming" Bond books, James has a Super Blackhawk stashed under the dash of his car. By the time I read that one, I thought having a single-action for a defensive pistol was pretty dang dumb.
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Alpo
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What? You don't look at movies and think, "What the heck is that?"
IMDB guns has got some good info. But they got a lot of nonsense, also.
Scent of a Woman. They say the gun is a Series 80 Colt. They can tell by the grips.
Funny though. I've never seen a lanyard-ring MSH on a Series 80.
And all those movies made in the 30s and 40s, where the cops have Model 10s.
IMDB guns has got some good info. But they got a lot of nonsense, also.
Scent of a Woman. They say the gun is a Series 80 Colt. They can tell by the grips.
Funny though. I've never seen a lanyard-ring MSH on a Series 80.And all those movies made in the 30s and 40s, where the cops have Model 10s.
Abbynormal
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What? You don't look at movies and think, "What the heck is that?"
IMDB guns has got some good info. But they got a lot of nonsense, also.
Scent of a Woman. They say the gun is a Series 80 Colt. They can tell by the grips.
And all those movies made in the 30s and 40s, where the cops have Model 10s.
What in the hell are you smokin'?
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