Just picked up a M&P15-22 Pistol

[Dirty*Harry]

I had no idea that this thing even existed. I saw it and said "man that would make a cool SBR. I got to have it"
The ad was posted local and was only up for 17 minutes when i called the guy and said "I'll take it."
Here it is. it came with 2 mags and 600 rounds of ammo. I think I did pretty good for $450.

 

[sithlord]

$450!! With 600 rounds of ammo!?!? Go buy a lottery ticket, you lucky devil dog you!

 

[crazykg85]

I am not only jealous...but I now admire and dislike you at the same time.

Lucky Guy.

 

[Triathloncoach]

I just sold one for a whole bunch more than you paid. Nice grab.

 

[Dirty*Harry]

When I saw it advertised I had never seen one before. I figured since I have never seen one and the fact they don't make it anymore considering the value of the rifle it had to be worth $450. So I jumped on it.

 

[alaskavett]

Nice score! You will have a blast shooting that one. I hope you have more then the 600 rounds it came with as you will need them! My son's love to shoot mine as much as I do... My understanding is that these were manufactured for less then one year. If anyone knows the quantity I would love to hear that number. Kyle

 

[bp231986]

I had no idea that this thing even existed. I saw it and said "man that would make a cool SBR. I got to have it"
The ad was posted local and was only up for 17 minutes when i called the guy and said "I'll take it."
Here it is. it came with 2 mags and 600 rounds of ammo. I think I did pretty good for $450.

Very very cool!!! As others have posted you got an awesome deal!! I'm jealous lol. Have fun and enjoy it man!!


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[RedNeck Jim]

Great deal however IMO it would be a big mistake to turn this into an SBR. This thing has value because of its rarity. If you want an SBR, and don't want this pistol, sell this at true market value, which is much more than you paid, purchase a 15-22 rifle & send the barrel to Adco for shortening & threading. Then buy more ammo with all the extra money.

This will be much simpler & you will come out better in the end.

 

[Dirty*Harry]

Jim,
I've been thinking I'm going to just buy a M&P 15-22 rifle lower. Then the pistol will be able to be put back to it's original form with no alterations.

 

[RedNeck Jim]

Jim,
I've been thinking I'm going to just buy a M&P 15-22 rifle lower. Then the pistol will be able to be put back to it's original form with no alterations.

Assuming you can get one, make sure you get your stamp first. They don't take long when you e-file.

 

[Dirty*Harry]

Jim,
You can get a stamp without the serial number off of the lower, so that isn't going to happen. Form 1 efile is running between 34-40 days right now.

 

[crazykg85]

Great deal however IMO it would be a big mistake to turn this into an SBR. This thing has value because of its rarity. If you want an SBR, and don't want this pistol, sell this at true market value, which is much more than you paid, purchase a 15-22 rifle & send the barrel to Adco for shortening & threading. Then buy more ammo with all the extra money.

This will be much simpler & you will come out better in the end.

This firearm would not able to be the SBR. He would have to have another 15-22 rifle and register that lower for the SBR. This would not affect the value of the 15-22P whatsoever.

 

[WilsonFlyer]

Could somebody help me understand how changing the lower only from a FS 15/22 is going to make it a SBR? I'm obviously confused.

What about the buffer tube and stock? Isn't that technically altering the upper?

 

[crazykg85]

Could somebody help me understand how changing the lower only from a FS 15/22 is going to make it a SBR? I'm obviously confused.

What about the buffer tube and stock? Isn't that technically altering the upper?

Each firearm is registered as a rifle or a pistol. The lower receiver on any Ar15 type rifle is the firearm portion. If it is a rifle, it must have at least a 16 inch barrel.

Putting an upper with a barrel less than 16 inches changes the legality of a rifle if it is has not gone through the proper channels first. For it to be a rifle, with a stock and everything and not having a barrel of 16 inches, the firearm must be registered as an SBR.

 

[RedNeck Jim]

This firearm would not able to be the SBR.

Of course it can be. Modify the pistol so that you can attach a stock, and you just made a SBR.

I just think there are easier ways of making a SBR. Only advantage of turning a 15-22 pistol into a SBR is that it is designed to operate better than the rifle, when one uses ultra short barrels.

 

[crazykg85]

Of course it can be. Modify the pistol so that you can attach a stock, and you just made a SBR.

I just think there are easier ways of making a SBR. Only advantage of turning a 15-22 pistol into a SBR is that it is designed to operate better than the rifle, when one uses ultra short barrels.

I would not suggest modifying the pistol lower on the 15-22. You are right that you CAN, but it is whether you SHOULD or not. If you pay for the tax stamp and screw up modding the pistol lower, you are SOL.

 

[Capt_Destro]

Just buy another 15-22, enjoy both the pistol and rifle until the stamp is approved.

Down the road you can also have the 15-22 rifle barrel shortened to 10" or so. So in your possession would be a SBR Lower, and a Pistol lower. Both uppers are modular and should fit each other.


You would also have 2 different SBR Uppers for different purposes. Both firearms would be totally legal. (the 16" upper would look wonky on the 1522P lower lol.)

Attaching the stock to the pistol lower is only worth it if you make it a folding stock.

 

[WilsonFlyer]

Each firearm is registered as a rifle or a pistol. The lower receiver on any Ar15 type rifle is the firearm portion. If it is a rifle, it must have at least a 16 inch barrel.

Putting an upper with a barrel less than 16 inches changes the legality of a rifle if it is has not gone through the proper channels first. For it to be a rifle, with a stock and everything and not having a barrel of 16 inches, the firearm must be registered as an SBR.

See? I missed the OBVIOUS. He's putting the upper on the rifle and not the other way around. Sometimes it's the simple things that get me. Duh!

Thanks!

 

[WilsonFlyer]

This is probably not the appropriate place but since it's come up here, I'm going to ask. I can't seem to find an answer anywhere.

Why would you WANT a SBR to begin with? I can find all kinds of articles about how to do it but why would one do it? What's the point?

And this very important (I think) observation...

It seems to me from my brief reading that it would be illegal just to OWN and have TOGETHER these two guns in the same household, even as assembled from the factory, unless one already had the tax stamp and approval.

From everything I can read, all you have to have is the components to assemble. It doesn't seem to matter whether you ever intend to or not.

Maybe that's why S&W stopped making the pistol. You can't own both at the same time as far as I can tell.

 

[WilsonFlyer]

Jim,
I've been thinking I'm going to just buy a M&P 15-22 rifle lower. Then the pistol will be able to be put back to it's original form with no alterations.

And put the upper on it? You can't do that. The lower you buy (rifle) is forever a rifle (Edit after OP: long-barreled rifle?) once the SN has been registered as such. There's no legal way to do what you're trying to do unless you can buy a lower that has never been registered as a rifle and I seriously doubt that you can even do that.

(OK. Now that I read what I just wrote, maybe you can. Hell. I don't know. It all just looks too easy to me. Gotta be a catch.)